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KIRI




AFTER THE FALL


 
(Kiri starts off answering questions about connections with Stonehenge and Atlantis when we get into the aftermath of the downfall of that continent after the disaster. Kiri and I theorize on what happened to the survivors so we break it down by skills to identify where various groups ended up on the planet.) 




Kiri: dude.

Russ: Kiri.

Kiri: yo, he lost me you know when he was talking like that.

Russ: really?

Kiri: I thought I was the hip chick.

Russ: I thought you’d follow along totally with that.

Kiri: I thought I was the hip chick.

Russ: you’ve been supplanted.

Kiri: well only the once, he’s not got the hip movements I’ve got.

Russ: no, that’s true. So anyway, we are working on this evening…

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: Pythagoran geometry and astronomy.

Kiri: oh cool, cool dude.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: and in regards to the Stonehenge….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and the various other megalithic sites throughout Europe.

Kiri: cool.

Russ: particularly Britain.

Kiri: cool.

Russ: okay, now according to what I’m reading here…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: the ancient builders of Stonehenge and these megaliths had an Einsteinian knowledge of Pythagoran geometry way before Pythagoras was even born.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and astronomy to such a degree that it would take almost telescopes and computers to figure out the exact alignments that they came up with.

Kiri: uh-huh, which are accurate.

Russ: which are very accurate. So that only leaves one suggestion about where the science came from.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: which would be Atlantis.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now my theory on this is that the reason the knowledge came through so clearly is that it came from one particular race of beings who left Atlantis and settled in the northern part of England.

Kiri: I think we’ve covered that, I think we have dude.

Russ: well we have yeah but I mean we haven’t covered to this angle yet.

Kiri: okay, let me hear you out.

Russ: okay, now when we covered it last, we covered the fact that the group in question were the miners of Atlantis.

Kiri: some of them yes.

Russ: some of them who left and settled in parts of Scandinavia and parts of Britain.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Now at the time, all we discussed about them were the fact that they continued their mining's…..

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: and we still have relics of those basic archaeological digs…….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well for their part, mines today.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now in this respect then we're seeing a whole other level of science added on to that…..

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: to where mining is not even involved which…...

Kiri: yes it is, yes it is.

Russ: in a certain way, but there’s something else besides this, this wasn’t strictly their work.

Kiri: no.

Russ: this was something that goes beyond that…..

Kiri: well…….

Russ: the fact that it seems like it’s more almost Sirian.

Kiri: well you've got to remember you’re dealing with a group of individuals that have to know mathematics and geometry.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: why?

Russ: to work out the basic structures of the weak points, strong points of holes they're digging in the ground.

Kiri: and the shafts that their digging and how to shore up the shafts and so on.

Russ: right.

Kiri: so you’ve got to have a very sophisticated level of engineering….

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: and a very high understanding of mathematics.

Russ: yes.

Kiri: so that’s where the geometry comes in.

Russ: right.

Kiri: because certain shapes have certain strengths and certain strengths can be used for safety.

Russ: right.

Kiri: after all, you have to remember that if a group of miners get trapped underground, they’ve got to be able to go to a safe area where they can work out and a relief party can work in.

Russ: right.

Kiri: otherwise they end up dead very quickly.

Russ: right.

Kiri: and to minimize fall-ins and cave-ins and so on, you’ve got to know the certain structures to be able to create an area that there is less of a chance of a cave-in.

Russ: but now see this doesn’t include the astronomy part, that’s where the second group comes in.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and so…...

Kiri: from what I understand though, it wasn’t just the mining groups that ended up there.

Russ: right, it wouldn’t seem to be, it looks like they were still working with other members of the Atlantean community.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but the one thing I don’t understand is, maybe I do, the astronomy part….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: came in so that they can regulate the timing of solar eclipses, times of the seasons…….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: for growth and basic parts of the year.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: which is where the astronomy part comes in.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: the building part obviously helps in the aid of that.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but the one thing that comes into being here that I’m questioning is, movement of the stones.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay? What we’re seeing is the same kind of design we saw with the pyramid whereby they were using psychokinesis…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: to maneuver the stones into place, take them from rock quarries a 130 miles away and place them with the exactness that they did.

Kiri: well if you look at where the rocks supposedly came from right which is where?

Russ: well a majority came hundred a 130 miles away, the blue granite.

Kiri: from?

Russ: give me a second I can tell you.

Kiri: we can go and ask Mark if you want, send somebody to ask Mark.

Russ: oh no, no, no, it’s right here. Yeah here it is.......well I thought it was. Give me a second.

Kiri: tick-tock, tick-tock (hums the Jeopardy theme).

Russ: here we go......okay, "the blue stone’s" okay? "Came from a Welsh quarry…."

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: "which was a 130 miles northwest of Salisbury plain. The sarsen slabs were brought from the Marlboro Downs about 20 miles north of the site……"

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: "and since wheeled vehicles were unknown in Britain during the time of Stonehenge’s construction, the long-distance transportation involved with moving these massive rocks is the most astonishing feats……"

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: "that were accredited to the builders."

Kiri: uh-huh. Tia’s just arrived back and she goes, “Wales.”

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: Welsh quarry.

Kiri: yes now, what is Wales famous for?

Russ: Welshman?

Kiri: apart from Welshman.

Russ: oh, the Celts.

Kiri: no.

Russ: Wales, Wales, Wales, Wales. Why does that question sound so familiar, what is it famous for? I’d have to say it would probably be some famous archaeological site?

Kiri: no, go down to Virginia City and look around, what’s there?

Russ: what, mines?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: oh, coal or something?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: what is that, Newcastle or something is in Wales?

Kiri: I don't know.

Russ: coals from Newcastle? Oh.

Kiri: I don’t know.

Russ: it’s not my country.

Kiri: it’s not my planet. Beat you…ah-ha. It’s not my dimension, top that one.

Russ: you got a point.

Kiri: uh-huh. But anyway….

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: mining, think about it dude. You’re cutting blocks right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: what group of individuals would be the ideal people to be stonemasons?

Russ: that would be the miners of course.

Kiri: of course dude. So, you’ve got a whole load of granite that needs cutting right? What do you do?

Russ: you cut it up and you transport it.

Kiri: you go to the locals who happen to be miners, “hey dudes, we got some rock here, could you cut it for us?”

Russ: no problem.

Kiri: the problem. So you have two groups of individuals communicating.

Russ: hmm, now check this picture out. This was found…..these were some stuff that was found at the site. It's attributed to the Mycenaean’s.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: which led them to believe that possibly the Greeks had built it.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well we know that’s not true but we know where that came from actually.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: we know the origin of that. Yes, it is Grecian in style…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: or Mycenaean in style, but the Mycenaean’s had borrowed that from somewhere else anyway.

Kiri: and we know where dude.

Russ: and we know where.

Kiri: God, he’s got me talking like him.

(Russ laughs)

Russ: so we know that........okay after looking at this…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and looking at how the stones were moved….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: .....who cut them, we kind of get a clearer picture of how they were built, why they were built…

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but that leads us into the next problem is okay, where is the rest of it? Is that it? A few trinkets and Stonehenge and a bunch of megaliths, that’s it? No, we have mines......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay?

Kiri: we have mines, we have power grids.

Russ: ley lines.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: right. We have mounds.

Kiri: uh-huh, which a majority of them are tombs.

Russ: right. We also have things like Salisbury Hill and Glastonbury Hill.

Kiri: Salisbury Hill?

Russ: it’s a famous mound, a lot of energy there.

Kiri: ahh.

Russ: Glastonbury Hill, a conjunction of Ley lines.

Kiri: Tor.

Russ: Tor, correct.

Kiri: Glastonbury Tor, it’s not a hill, it’s a Tor.

Russ: right.

Kiri: with a church on there.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: and a very spiritual pathway.

Russ: correct, which I believe is linked with Stonehenge somehow or another.

Kiri: you’d have to ask somebody that knows something about it.

Russ: I haven’t even looked into that part yet.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I can find out.

Kiri: ask a Celt.

Russ: I will ask him when he gets back. So….

Kiri: not a kilt, a Celt.

Russ: yes well we’re seeing now then that there is a pattern……

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and what we could say then is this is the founders of England.

Kiri: ohhhhh, that will upset him.

Russ: why?

Kiri: England is only a part of it, what does Mark say he is?

Russ: oh British…

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, Britain. But we’re seeing now……..okay, here’s another clue. Okay, where you look at, there’s some 50,000…..the most megalithic sites…

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: where all these things are? In England, there’s 50,000 in all. "The greatest concentration of megaliths are found in Western Europe, North Africa, primarily in Britain, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, France, Scandinavia and Algeria."

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay? But this doesn't mention the other end of that spectrum.

Kiri: uh-huh, which is?

Russ: which is Greece, Egypt......well North Africa I guess that could be Egypt because you've got the obelisks.

Kiri: yeah, totally different.

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: totally different group of individuals. Communication between them, certainly. All heading towards one goal which I haven't got the foggiest of what it would be a great disaster, probably survival and communication.

Russ: I’d say it'd be more……..well here’s the whole topper for all this.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: if you look around the world after the disaster of Atlantis….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you see sites set up all around the world that individually they're unique to that part of the world.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but if you group them all together, what you’re seeing is Atlantis on a larger scale.

Kiri: uh-huh, yeah but so spread out through……it’s many Atlantis’.

Russ: right, you have to look at it and actually take the whole globe….

Kiri: and bring it together and you get……

Russ: at one small island.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well one large continent.

Kiri: yeah, but it’s more than that, you’re getting parts of a city brought back together, a capital city brought back together. This is my opinion and my opinion only is that you’ve got the miners right? And the agriculturalists that end up scattered all over the place, the mass concentration is in Europe. You have a group of miners and agriculturalists that are together right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: they try to re-create their area.

Russ: right.

Kiri: because if you take mining right? It brings rock and sterile stuff out of the ground which can be put on the ground to be used as fertilizer and all sorts of interesting things. Lime for example and so on which is good for the ground so that the miners and the agriculturalists would tend to exist together.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: so that you have these two groups working together on Atlantis, they escape and a large group of them that end up in Europe and scattered all over Europe are still grouped together because they're running for the boats as the island goes down and explodes and whatever so you're going to get a mixture of them together.

Russ: right, you also see some of those miners going off to Egypt too.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean some of that work in Egypt was just beyond awesome.

Kiri: of course, of course but......

Russ: the Sphinx for example….

Kiri: yeah but you see what I’m saying?

Russ: but that’s a whole other style of mining.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean the Sphinx is so different from Stonehenge as to be almost two complete cultures so therefore you’re seeing the miners with a different group…

Kiri: uh-huh, catering to the different group.

Russ: to a more I would almost call it a higher class.

Kiri: it's more along the lines……

Russ: it’s not agriculturalists.

Kiri: that’s right.

Russ: as it so much more aristocracy.

Kiri: you’re dealing with a group of individuals in Europe that are agriculturalists and miners….

Russ: right, who have to know the seasons….

Kiri: uh-huh, very important for them.

Russ: correct.

Kiri: you see one cannot exist without the other you see?.

Russ: right, so they trade-off the agricultural goods that they get for the mine work they get to help them learn to chart the seasons.

Kiri: correct. In Egypt, where it’s almost a year-round harvesting type thing...

Russ: right.

Kiri: and a different type of lifestyle, you don’t need to have such a high reliance on the seasons because there’s basically two seasons

Russ: right.

Kiri: drought and rain. But you have to have things to store the grain in and the food.

Russ: almost scientists.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: if you look at the pyramid and some of the other works among Egypt, you're seeing more of an alignment with Sirius….

Kiri: uh-huh and you’re seeing a lot of mathematical precision.

Russ: a lot of working with the sun.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: right, a lot of mathematical precision. A lot more so that you see it with Stonehenge….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but you see it in a greater quantity…..

Kiri: yeah but you see the mathematics would be the mining, the astronomy and the alignments would be more aristocratic and nobility. It might be better to say that there were two main groups that survived that ended up in Europe in the mining groups and the agricultural groups but there was also the affluent miners and the affluent farmers.

Russ: right, the aristocracy.

Kiri: uh-huh and more of them ended up in Egypt but some ended up there and the same with the farming, fewer of the farmers ended up in Egypt, More of the…

Russ: more of the scientist class…..

Kiri: that’s correct.

Russ: ended up….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: in Egypt.

Kiri: yeah. Which tells you what about the island?

Russ: about England or Britain?

Kiri: no, about Atlantis.

Russ: oh Atlantis, oh.

Kiri: if you look at Atlantis, let’s say this is Atlantis….

Russ: well it's showing that everything is more grouped into sections.

Kiri: okay let’s say this is Atlantis right?

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: you’ve got northern Europe over here, you’ve got Africa here…..

Russ: right.

Kiri: you’ve got the America's here.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: right? Now, where is your mass concentration of agriculturalists and miners?

Russ: it’s going to be on the northern side, on the northeastern side.

Kiri: of the island.

Russ: right because that’s where you’re going to get your…..

Kiri: mass concentration over here of survivors.

Russ: well your trade winds…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and everything are going to be coming that way.

Kiri: yes but what I’m saying is that the survivors, miners and farmers, the majority of them ended up over here.

Russ: right.

Kiri: whereas down here, we got a bunch of……

Russ: wait a minute, the capital city was down there in the southeast. What was it, was it called? Atlan or something like that?

Kiri: something like that. So you’ve got down here you’ve got more of the aristocracy and so on.

Russ: right.

Kiri: right? And a few miners. Now that tells you about Atlantis here right? What have you got?

Russ: well that would be…..okay we know the Mayans came from…..Mayans and Indian…..American Indians were in the Northwest.

Kiri: uh-huh, they were over here.

Russ: right.

Kiri: so you’ve got coming from the side of the island, surviving going this way….

Russ: which group of people? The red skinned group.

Kiri: that’s right.

Russ: but they're also down the Southwest of the island, North and Southwest. They're spread on that whole western side there.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: why?

Kiri: because it was more like home for them.

Russ: hmm what, more…..?

Kiri: more luscious, grasslands and forest lands.

Russ: oh really?

Kiri: uh-huh, whereas over here you have a more barren agricultural type area whereas here you have more of a warmer tropical area.

Russ: hmmm.

Kiri: so and here, you have the capital city and so on. So the survivors flee, you’re not getting any of the forest dwellers coming across to this side as the island goes up, they’re all going this way and this way and you have going this way the miners and the agriculturalists and a few of the aristocracy and then this way you have a lot of aristocracy, a few farmers and a few miners. Going this way you have a few miners right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: and a few aristocracy and a lot of….

Russ: it seems the miners were all over the island.

Kiri: uh-huh exactly.

Russ: because if you remember, if you look at South America….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and Central America….

Kiri: there is mining.

Russ: there is mining on a great scale.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: giant constructions that are totally mysterious in Peru for example.

Kiri: uh-huh, yeah.    

Russ: the size of this house, blocks the size of this house make up a wall.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and that is very familiar to the Bimini Wall.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: in the southwestern side of the island near Florida.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: which we see the same size and sort of blocks there as we see in Peru.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: so we’re seeing that exodus there but then that also brings in the question of well there’s also Lemuria to be brought into this.

Kiri: yeah, exactly. So it’s not a complete equation, there is a lot…..

Russ: there’s a lot of missing parts.

Kiri: oh yeah.

Russ: but there’s a lot more cleared up.

Kiri: okay, more questions?

Russ: no..

Kiri: okay.

Russ: thank you dear.

Kiri: no worries dude. I’m going to go off and talk to Monk and then I’ll see about dealing with Mark.

Russ: later tall chick.

Kiri: yeah, tall chick. He called me the slick chick.

Russ: slick chick with a chain.

Kiri: yeah I was looking at him and going, “dude, come on man.” No I was going, “dude, come on, out of there dude.”

Russ: oh, that was you?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: I mean that was how you were doing it?

Kiri: uh-huh, see you later dude.

Russ: bye darling.