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                 (Tia gives us some great tips
                                on increasing the range of our astral
                                travel trips and how to boost the
                                focusing ability.)
 
 
 Tia:
                                      astral travel. I have my notes
                                      here, nice big pile of them. Okay,
                                      now we have an astral traveler
                                      don't we?
 
 John: uhh yes we do.
 
 Tia: uh-huh, don't be afraid to
                                      talk, I don't bite very often.
                                      Only people that annoy me.
 
 John: you're the astral traveler
                                      here, not me or Skip. She's
                                      referring to you.
 
 Tia: Ryan, Ryan there.
 
 John: and you are talking to a
                                      woman or a female.
 
 Tia: Ryan knows who Tia is, don't
                                      you? Who I am. Okay, now astral
                                      travel, Mark tells me that you can
                                      travel about a 500 mile radius
                                      right?
 
 Ryan: yes.
 
 Tia: uh-huh, and that you've been
                                      experimenting with increasing your
                                      abilities correct?
 
 Ryan: I believe so.
 
 Tia: uh-huh okay now, do you have
                                      questions before I get down to the
                                      technical stuff?
 
 Ryan: no.
 
 Tia: no okay, all right
                                      now........okay let's skip that,
                                      let's go onto that. Okay now then,
                                      your breathing technique, do you
                                      do ten deep and ten shallow or do
                                      you just let yourself drift off?
 
 Ryan: one of each.
 
 Tia: okay so we'll work on
                                      increasing your ability and we'll
                                      give you a framework to work
                                      within that will enhance and
                                      expand your ability. Okay now the
                                      other night you were discussing
                                      with Mark if my memory is correct,
                                      because I was listening, instead
                                      of doing 500 miles, going to
                                      somewhere like the city where the
                                      Bears are? No the Cubs. The Bears,
                                      Cubs? It's a city where a football
                                      team is called the Bears?
 
 John: talking about Chicago or
                                      Detroit.
 
 Ryan: okay.
 
 Tia: and......
 
 John: go ahead speak up because
                                      we're recording this, we need this
                                      for future reference.
 
 Ryan: okay.
 
 John: so speak up.
 
 Ryan: I'll try.
 
 Tia: yeah don't be shy, don't be
                                      shy. I'm the shy one here, I used
                                      to run and hide didn't I?
 
 Skip: uh-huh.
 
 Tia: uh-huh, used to have a hell
                                      of a time getting me to channeling
                                      sessions with people I didn't
                                      know. I used to talk all squeaky
                                      and funny, still do from time to
                                      time. But yeah, okay Mark
                                      suggested Chicago I think. Which
                                      is about 3,000 KM correct?
 
 Skip: 1,500 miles.
 
 Tia: yeah that's about 3,000 I
                                      think.
 
 John: no that be less than 3,000
                                      KM.
 
 Tia: well I don't know, they're
                                      your measurements.
 
 Skip: about 1,500 miles.
 
 John: yeah.
 
 Tia: okay.
 
 John: I'd say it would be more
                                      like 2,300 KM? Just off the top of
                                      my head.
 
 Tia: uh-huh okay so that would be
                                      instead of twice as far, that
                                      would be three times as far as you
                                      would want to go and that would
                                      stretch you a little bit too much
                                      I think. Okay now what we suggest
                                      is going back to the breathing is
                                      that you do 10 deep and 10 shallow
                                      and pace them nice and gently so
                                      that you inhale a lot a lot of
                                      oxygen on the first 10 and then
                                      you exhale not as much oxygen on
                                      the 10 shallow. And then I assume
                                      that you feel your body getting
                                      lighter and lighter correct?
 
 Ryan: yes.
 
 Tia: okay and then you just break
                                      free and float up and head off
                                      correct?
 
 Ryan: yes.
 
 Tia: okay now to increase your
                                      stamina, what you might try is, do
                                      you drink coffee?
 
 Ryan: no.
 
 Tia: tea?
 
 Ryan: occasionally.
 
 Tia: occasionally, some kind of
                                      stimulant that will keep you more
                                      focused because you have sort of
                                      like a haze around the edges when
                                      you look?
 
 Ryan: uh-huh.
 
 Tia: uh-huh because that should
                                      sharpen it but also exercising
                                      will help to increase your
                                      stamina, not only to your physical
                                      body but to your astral body so
                                      being physically fit also helps
                                      with your astral travel. You ski
                                      right?
 
 Ryan: yes.
 
 Tia: right ski.
 
 Ryan: snowboard.
 
 Tia: oh snowboard. Oh you're one
                                      of those long hair types huh?
 
 Ryan: not yet.
 
 Tia: not yet but you're working on
                                      it. Okay, now with the breathing
                                      technique and the exercise,
                                      exercising......what you can do in
                                      the meantime, is put yourself into
                                      a semi-trance state. Do you know
                                      anything about yoga?
 
 Ryan: no.
 
 Tia: no. Okay now, there's a
                                      position that yogis
                                      recommend......and hold on whilst
                                      I sit Mark up to
                                      demonstrate.....he's wearing a
                                      knee brace, that might make things
                                      entertaining. Okay........okay so
                                      it's not going to go all the way
                                      around but normally you'd bring
                                      your leg underneath here. No it's
                                      not going to go all the way. Now
                                      what you would do is put your
                                      hands out so that they're resting
                                      on the knees right? And just feel
                                      the energy flowing into you right?
                                      And this will make you feel a
                                      little bit lightheaded like you're
                                      about to astral travel. Now what
                                      you're doing is you're charging
                                      your being with energy coming in
                                      from around you so that you
                                      go...(breaths in and
                                      out).....inhale and then exhale.
                                      And then you wait a bit and then
                                      inhale again and exhale. And what
                                      this is doing is charging your
                                      astral form with energy which will
                                      increase your radius and range. It
                                      will also increase your lung
                                      capacity which means that it would
                                      help with the exercises as well.
                                      Do you have any questions at this
                                      point?
 
 Ryan: no.
 
 Tia: okay.
 
 (the phone rings and the
                                      conversation has been edited out)
 
 Tia: yes okay so by doing the
                                      breathing routines, that will help
                                      increase the energy flow within
                                      your being and charge your astral
                                      body and increase your lung
                                      capacity to your physical body. So
                                      by increasing the energy, you can
                                      actually travel a further
                                      distance. Now have you got any
                                      particular problems with astral
                                      traveling like maintaining focus?
 
 Ryan: yeah.
 
 Tia: okay, now what we can do to
                                      help you is if you pick an object
                                      right? Let's say the bookcase
                                      there, you see the bookcase and
                                      keeping your eyes open, what you
                                      do is without touching it you
                                      imagine all the books disappearing
                                      off of there and then you imagine
                                      whilst keeping your eyes open and
                                      looking at the bookcase with the
                                      books on it you imagine it being
                                      without books and then you imagine
                                      what you want to put on there.
                                      Let's say you want to put on
                                      little, tiny, miniature trees or
                                      little, tiny, miniature buildings.
                                      You visualize those there instead
                                      of seeing the books there and that
                                      will help you to focus mentally
                                      and how it does this is it's
                                      sharpening your mind to the
                                      perception that you have when you
                                      astral travel. Or what you can do
                                      as another helpful technique is
                                      instead of traveling a great
                                      distance right? Is traveling into
                                      the next room and putting an
                                      object, let's say a book right?
                                      And a book with a picture on the
                                      front and you go and have look at
                                      the picture and you keep
                                      concentrating on that picture and
                                      then when you come back right? You
                                      write down what you saw on the
                                      book and then you go and check and
                                      this will help you with your
                                      focus.
 
 Ryan: okay.
 
 Tia: okay? Any questions? Come on
                                      you must have one question. No?
 
 Ryan: no.
 
 Tia: hmm, okay let's proceed with
                                      the next part. Okay now when you
                                      start to travel over the 750 KM,
                                      is that correct?
 
 Skip: uh-huh.
 
 Tia: 500 miles.
 
 John: close enough.
 
 Tia: yeah close enough, who wants
                                      to argue? Yes Johnny?
                                      Nevermind....
 
 John: I'm all done, we'll talk
                                      later.
 
 Tia: okay, now over the 500 miles
                                      in the circle that you do, what
                                      you can do is if you have a map of
                                      the continental USA, you get one
                                      of those things with points on it
                                      and a pencil and you do a circle
                                      let's say that is 800 miles right?
                                      And you pick a town and you travel
                                      to that town. Now the first time
                                      that you do that it will be a
                                      strain. Mark suggested doubling
                                      the distance, I suggest doing it
                                      in little increments because that
                                      way instead of stretching yourself
                                      hard, you stretch yourself a
                                      little bit. And you pick a town
                                      let's say it's somewhere in
                                      Montana? And you pick the town of
                                      Missoula, is that correct?
                                      Missoula, Missoula?
 
 Skip: Missoula.
 
 John: Missoula Montana.
 
 Tia: yeah that's the place.
                                      Missoula right, you pick that town
                                      and you astral travel to it. Now
                                      if my memory's correct, that is
                                      the capital of that state right?
 
 Skip: no.
 
 Tia: it's not?
 
 Skip: Helena.
 
 Tia: okay Helena will do. They're
                                      pretty close together anyway, or
                                      they look so on a map, I never
                                      been to either of them. You pick
                                      the capital right? You astral
                                      travel to the capital. Now you
                                      don't need to go off and look at
                                      pictures and stuff like Mark
                                      suggested because I have
                                      confidence in your ability. I see
                                      it in your aura that you're an
                                      astral traveler right? And you
                                      travel to it, you see what you see
                                      and you come back. Now you will be
                                      tired so if you want to take a nap
                                      you're welcome to. Also I suggest
                                      is that you keep a journal of your
                                      trips when you do the stretching
                                      trips where you increase your
                                      ability. Now how it helps you in
                                      your everyday life is it gives you
                                      much more focus on what you want
                                      to do. It gives you an objective
                                      and it affects everything else
                                      that you do that you get more of
                                      an objective.......it gives you
                                      somewhere to aim for and it makes
                                      your life more focused that you
                                      can direct your energies better,
                                      it increases your concentration
                                      level, it increases your mental
                                      processing abilities so that you
                                      can think and decide much quicker.
                                      Do you have any questions now? No?
                                      Okay well I'm going to step out
                                      for a few and I'm going to put the
                                      next person in. And don't worry, I
                                      don't bite.
 
 John: yes you do.
 
 
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