(Kiri gives a dissertation
on the morals involved with coercion where she
lays them out so well, this channeling session has
been moved to the first in the series from where
it would have normally appeared. This is by far
one of her best explanations on the power of
coercion and why serious consideration should be
used before using the skill. It would be
considered a prerequisite before moving on to the
other channeling sessions on the subject.)
Kiri: okay
dude.
Russ: what's up Kiri?
Kiri: okay, morals and coercion.
Russ: oh Lord.
Kiri: here we go. Morals and coercion
are very important due to the power of
suggested thought from the mind. The
reason being that they are so
important is the harm that can be
inflicted on an individual by stray
thoughts of a coercer and the fact
that this can lead to an alteration in
a person’s pathway and the life's
journey that the coercer takes
responsibility for. These actions have
to be monitored very carefully and
stray thoughts from a coercer can
cause problems in such a way that it
can be a continuing problem not for
just for one life but for many lives
to come so it is necessary to learn
self-control above all others. Having
thoughts that interact with other
people and being able to manipulate
other people is a wonderful skill but
misuse of this skill in itself can
present major problems. The necessary
undertakings of a coercer have to be
done with a good and clear conscience.
The important ramifications of
negative actions of a coercer can lead
to a self-destructive pathway of the
coercer and the coercee. The
responsibilities that a coercer takes
upon herself when she is coercing is
something that the coercer has to
weigh with a good, clear conscience. I
repeat those words, with a good, clear
conscience. Now coercion in itself has
many different types of usages and
each use has its own set of necessary
rules. Let us take everyday coercion
which is the most common that is used.
What is right for the individual and
how to use a coercive beam to control
somebody else. Again, it has to be
done with a clear and good conscience,
what is right? As has been stated in
the past, what is right for me may not
be right for you or whoever. But,
coercion in itself in the everyday
mode is something that does not cause
too much problems because the
situations do not arise where serious
damage can be done but damage can be
done and it should be looked at
carefully. If you want to coerce
somebody to move out of the way, come
to you, to sit down, to be quiet,
these are all useful things of a
personal nature. When you have an
express idea to coerce an individual,
that is where it becomes more serious
and in its serious nature itself lies
problems that a coercer may come into,
a moral dilemma. Now there are a whole
load of morals that are necessary for
a coercer to live by. Doing the right
thing, not just the right thing for
herself but, for everybody involved.
So when a coercer decides that she has
to coerce, it is necessary for her to
weigh what she is doing and to look at
it necessarrally to come to a
compromise and in that compromise is
the starting of morals. Moral one, be
prepared to compromise, moral two, do
not do it for self-gain. Self-gain has
certain clauses, self-gain in
progression in one’s occupation. For
example, a coercer wishes to coerce so
that she can get a better position
with more fiscal gain so that she can
provide for her offspring and
therefore improve their lives. This is
not a negative use of coercion but,
using coercion in a way that she gets
a willing partner who is easy to
coerce to create a new life within
her, that in itself is negative
coercion because that is for
self-gratification to continue a lie.
That is not done from love, that is
done from lust. Lust itself has to be
addressed as a moral, it has to be
laid out and carefully analyzed. Lust
is an interfering factor that cannot
be used in coercion because that in
itself leads to negative actions. Once
you start on that slippery path on
using lust to judge your moral
standards, lusting for wealth, lusting
for somebody, lusting for a contented,
self-centered lifestyle, these are all
negative and should not be tried
because again that affects the long
outcome, not just one life, but many
lifetimes. Okay, moral number three,
purity of heart. Nobody that I know
has a 100% pure heart but by using
logic and understanding and reasoning,
something can become pure in your
opinion. This is important, your
opinion is the opinion that you must
base your moral and coercive attempts
upon. With the pure mind that you
perceive that you have, then coercion
becomes easier. Deciding and judging
whether something is right, whether
something is of good intent, whether
something will benefit somebody, these
are all subcategories of purity in
coercion. Coercion in these functions
serves as a useful everyday tool but
not everybody can be a good coercer so
if you’re in doubt, do not coerce. Now
specific subjects to coerce, people of
a destructive nature, I believe my
sister has covered in great detail
people of a destructive nature. But,
using coercion is a little bit like
talk therapy and again it has to be
done very carefully and cautiously.
You do not replace one set of problems
with another set of problems or as my
sister says, waveform patterns of the
brain. This is important to be
understood that when dealing with
somebody of a destructive nature, you
must know when to say no and to
disengage, otherwise you will join
them in their negative, addictive
behavior and therefore your own
waveform patterns in your brain will
be changed. This will lead to serious
psychological and mental problems in a
coercer. When a coercer uses these new
set of destructive patterns that they
have become addicted to, they proceed
down a very nasty, dark path where the
coercion becomes corrupted and festers
within the individual. Again there are
certain morals when you are using
coercion for a psychoanalyst purpose.
One is, do not use it to start off
with. This is because when you are
using it, first of all you have to
gain the person’s confidence naturally
without using any coercive skill
whatsoever. Two, if the person does
not achieve your confidence or you
achieve their confidence, do not
coerce them. Three, having achieved
their confidence, you coerce a little,
a tiny, tiny bit at first so that it
becomes a suggestive thought within
their brain but not a command. As you
progress and deal with the problem,
now you can start to insert commands
but these commands must be thought out
carefully. That is moral number four,
think out your coercive commands
carefully. When you have constructed
the necessary framework upon which
they can build their improvements, now
you step back and watch your pupil or
your patient develop for themselves.
That is moral number five, learn when
it is it appropriate to disengage in a
healing of a psychoanalyst nature.
Having let them form new structures on
the framework that you have given
them, you can now start to help them
to progress into a more secure way of
thinking. By constructing extensions
to the framework that you have
created, you have given them the
opportunity to grow. That is moral
number six, aiding in growing what is
beneficial for them, not for you but
what is beneficial for them to
progress on their path and in their
progression, they will find that you
are no longer a necessary tool, that
you are somebody that is now a friend.
That is rule number seven, letting go.
When the time is appropriate, let them
go. Now following coercive
psychoanalysism, coercive healing
which is normally done in the presence
of a healer, the healer does the
healing business and the coercer opens
up the mind to make it more receptive
to be able to aid in the healing.
Aiding in the healing is very
important, it speeds up the process
but it is also necessary for the
coercer to understand the purposes and
function of the healer. So we have a
moral here, moral dilemma. Is it
appropriate for a coercer to know
anything about healing? Oh yes it is,
it is very important, that is why I’m
not a coercive healer is because I do
not understand the healing in my
opinion well enough to be able to aid
in the healing process but a coercer
that knows nothing about healing can
help to a certain extent by soothing
the person's consciousness and
subconsciousness and distracting them
whilst the healer goes about their
business. Humor in coercion. Coercion
can be very humorous actually, not
many people realize that a lot of fun
can be had with good, positive
coercion. Practical jokes are
something that coercers enjoy
tremendously and in doing so, you
again have to be careful of planting
too deeply within the subconscious a
set of commands. These have to be done
very lightly on the surface but I do
not recommend that everybody goes
around practicing coercive pranks,
that is for the more adept and
experienced coercers. I enjoy doing it
myself quite a bit actually but that
is a hit moot point. But as I was
saying, coercion has a very useful
tool in humor. Being able to make
somebody see that what they have done
is extremely silly by making them look
without themselves so that they are
seeing themselves from somebody else’s
point of view makes them realize that
some of the things that they have done
are very silly and funny. When you are
coercing, regardless of whether it is
comic coercion, physical healing
coercion, mental healing coercion or
everyday coercion, it is important to
remember that it has to be done for
the best of all parties or the
individual that is being coerced. Not
for your own personal gratification
but as I stated there are the few
exceptions. One is for an improvement
for yourself so that you can provide
better for your offspring or those
that are dependent upon you. Another
one is if it is of a destructive
nature and the person could serve no
function from the learning experiences
incurred by that destructive nature.
Three, another example is where it
becomes dangerous and the person is
not aware that their behavior has
become dangerous because they have not
perceived that it is dangerous but you
have. It is your duty at that point to
coerce as a coercer them into a safe
or an environment that is no longer
threatening for the group or
themselves if they are not aware or
are not suffering from psychological
problems. Lot of if's, and's, but's,
or's in there but they’re all
important. Overall, coercion is a
great tool but has the power to
corrupt if you do not think your
actions through carefully. Most people
on the third dimension do not have the
speed of thought to be able to analyze
and realize what their actions are
going to achieve on the instant, they
have to think and plan accordingly in
advance. There are simple structures
that can be put in as a tool for
coercion. First of all stop, think
about what you are going to do, think
of all the possible outcomes. These
three things will help you decide if
it is right or wrong. Unfortunately
you can’t make a decision in a
split-second, you can go on gut
feeling and instinct but sometimes gut
feeling and instinct is inaccurate. If
you’re ever in any doubt, do not…….I
repeat, do not…..I repeat, DO NOT
coerce. You have any questions?
Russ: one or two.
Kiri: okay.
Russ: all right first off, when you’re
using negative coercion okay or for a
negative purpose?
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: is the penalty that you accrue
through the use of that karmically
equal to what the negative coercion
you are or do you get backlashed
worse?
Kiri: it is amplified, you get
backlashed a lot worse, it is
amplified.
Russ: why is that?
Three: that is because you are sending
your negative energy that creates
negative energy from the person that
it hits which is returned with your
negative energy and their negative
energy and anybody else’s negative
energy that it interacts with.
Russ: okay. Third dimensional use, for
example as you stated when using it to
acquire financial gain….
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: you’re still incurring a karmic
debt there aren’t you or as I'll call
it, karmic loan?
Kiri: could you expand upon that
because what you’re saying is for
personal gain, is that personal gain
only for let’s say myself?
Russ: let’s use the example you gave.
Kiri: okay.
Russ: getting a better job so that you
can feed your children. Okay now, is
that a karmic debt that's accrued?
Kiri: no………no.
Russ: no? Not at all?
Kiri: not at all because you are in
actual fact paying a karmic debt, you
are……because you are involving your
offspring, whether it is one child or
many children, you are therefore
providing for them so that they have a
better chance to advance and what you
are doing is sacrificing a little bit
of your self for them so that they can
have a better environment. This makes
it non-karmic because you are doing it
for the common good of your children.
Russ: well this is the first time
we’ve actually included children,
usually it’s been just you yourself
getting financial gain. If there is no
children, wouldn't it be better not to
use it at all?
Kiri: it depends on the set of
circumstances. There are so many
different variables that could be
interjected. We could sit here and
analyze this one in itself
indefinitely. Let us say you are the
best person suited for that job.
Russ: uh-huh.
Kiri: and that you see that with you
doing that particular function, you
would improve the people that you are
working for, you would improve their
lifestyles, you would improve the
growth of the organization you’re
working for and the overall group…..
Russ: ahhh.
Kiri: the people that are dependent
upon them. Again that is like having
children, you are sacrificing yourself
for others, that makes it good.
Russ: I see.
Kiri: when it is specifically for your
own personal gain and your own gain
alone so that you can accrue vast
financial gains, then it becomes
negative because it serves no other
purpose than for yourself. However, if
it is part of a long-term plan that by
making yourself fiscally stable, that
you can settle down and find a bond
mate who is willing for you to
sacrifice yourself to continue this
function so that they can raise the
offspring or to be taken care of by
you, then you are involving somebody
that you are sacrificing for so that
they can be better off themselves.
Russ: I see. So essentially if we're
looking at it from a higher point of
view, higher dimensional point of
view, we're actually the ones who are
going to judge this in the long run.
Kiri: correct.
Russ: we’re going to be able to look
at it from the point of view after the
fact when we determine whether or not
we did negatively or positively……
Kiri: correct.
Russ: so we’ll have all these factors
to add in at that point…
Kiri: correct.
Russ: so at the time you just work
with your intuition.
Kiri: correct. It is something that
when you are dealing with something
like advancement within a
organization, it is not now that you
are thinking about, it is later.
Russ: ahh, thank you. Okay, now for
when using it for healing
purposes…..I’ll go onto that section
you covered….
Kiri: okay.
Russ: in which you’re working with
patients or subjects, now the use of
coercion will tend to bond these
people to you.
Kiri: okay first of all let’s
differentiate between mental healing
and physical healing.
Russ: okay.
Kiri: okay which one are you talking
about?
Russ: physical healing.
Kiri: physical healing, I know very
little about physical coercion. That’s
why I skipped over it very lightly.
Russ: okay how about mental?
Kiri: mental yes, I know how to do
that.
Russ: okay now won't these tend to
bond themselves to you?
Kiri: yes but as I explained that
knowing when to stop the coercion is
important. Being able to ease the
person away from you is also important
and the necessary skills involved in
that. People will tend to see you as
some wonderful person and the normal
thing to do is to let them continue
seeing you as a wonderful person and
when they find out that you are
fallible and you do make mistakes,
then your image will be tarnished and
they may even be disgusted and turn
around and head straight back to their
negative pathways. If it is done
carefully and in a particular way, for
example, let us say…..let us take a
fictional person. Say I heal somebody
that has suicidal tendencies……
Russ: uh-huh.
Kiri: and they latch on to me. Now I
have to make them realize that I am
not all wonderful, that I’m not all
good so I would do things that would
raise a question in their mind. I
would discuss with them and as I’m
discussing with them I would insert
the thought that I am fallible, that
Kiri Tanaka makes mistakes. So
therefore the seed is planted for them
to think that I am fallible, that I am
after all only Sirian and I do make
mistakes. Then I would deliberately
make a mistake, just a small one but I
would wait a decent interval of maybe
a few hours or a few days and make a
mistake and they would see that I make
mistakes and that would make them
think with the coercive seed that is
planted, it is like pouring water on
the seed that it would start to
germinate and they would still think
I’m a good person but Kiri is after
all only Sirian and she does make
mistakes. You see?
Russ: uh-huh, okay…..
Kiri: but it has to be thought out
from beginning to end, from the start
of the mental healing to the end of
the mental healing. It has to be
thought out bit by bit by bit.
Russ: alright, this takes us to my
last and most important question of
them all. In sixth dimensional,
especially on Sirius……..
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: you have schools…..
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: that teach coercion……
Kiri: yes.
Russ: that teach all the basics that
you just went over.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: we don’t have anything like that
down here. Well, can we start
something like that down here if
we're........like for example if i put
this on the web, this is going to
people all over the world?
Kiri: correct.
Russ: well, how about people start
schools of coercion?
Kiri: yeah, it’s something that I
can’t interject. I cannot say what
will work down there, I only know what
works on Sirius and what worked in the
past.
Russ: right.
Kiri: so therefore I can’t say go
ahead create schools.
Russ: oh I know but I mean it would
seem to make the most logical sense
that we put in a theory into an actual
hands-on……
Kiri: well there actually are a search
of educational facilities that do
handle coercion or rather they set up
the morals to handle coercion and
these are religious, educational
facilities that teach good morals.
Unfortunately most of them are aimed
towards making priestesses and priests
but these things can apply.
Russ: right.
Kiri: that the morals of being pure of
heart and good and so on and thinking
things through are there already. It
is just a matter of being able to
spread them and to be able to get
everybody to follow those positive
thoughts and to achieve that goal.
Russ: okay. That’s fine with me, it’s
just seems a little bit of a shaky
institution to be teaching coercion
through, they don’t call it coercion.
Kiri: no they don’t.
Russ: and so you’re not really
learning the basics of how to deal
with coercion.
Kiri: no you’re not but indirectly you
are because it teaches the moral
structure. I will admit I’m very
playful, I enjoy making love
tremendously but I do have very strong
morals. I will not do anything that
will harm anybody, that would I think
fall under thou shalt not kill. I will
not use coercion to cheat, I will not
use coercion to take somebody away
from their bond mate, thou shalt not
covet thy neighbor’s husband. I will
not use coercion to cause destruction,
thou shalt not kill. I will not use
coercion to get somebody under my sway
to do my bidding whatever that is,
thou shalt not steal. You see?
Russ: yeah, yeah, I understand that
it’s just we have those same
principles we learn in Sunday school.
Kiri: but it’s the principles that are
useful. You can take the Ten
Commandments and use them in a way
that is a good moral tool on making
the correct decisions for coercion.
And by wording them carefully and
slightly differently, you can lay down
ten laws of coercion. They are not
suggestions, they are things that you
obey.
Russ: all right.
Kiri: you see?
Russ: uh-huh.
Kiri: okay, any more questions?
Russ: no, that’s all I’ve got for
right now, I'll have to think about
this.
Kiri: hmm, how long did that take?
That took up quite a bit didn’t it?
Russ: not that long.
Kiri: well we started that…..
Russ: about 15 minutes?
Kiri: uh-huh, yeah but it is basic
behavioral patterns that are important
within coercion. You see, coercion
through the ages has been used and
abused.
Russ: right.
Kiri: on our home planet, Tonar the
Corrupt, powerful coercer. Good
example, great example. Tonar the
Magnificent, also a corrupt coercer,
that was after the ascension (from the
Sirian Chronicles podcast). Hurrah the
Brave, another corrupt coercer
although he did try to redeem himself,
that is why he's called Hurrah the
Brave because he did great harm in his
youth but he started to understand the
moral dilemmas that he had created and
the necessary plans and actions.
Actually he's a good example of what
was thought of as negative coercion to
start with turning out to be good in
the long run.
Russ: uh-hmm. Yeah but where is Honar
the Brave here?
Kiri: Hurrah…..
Russ: oh right.
Kiri: he’s been dead for quite a few
thousand years.
Russ: I mean that he could be reborn
and reborn and reborn.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: he must’ve achieved some sort of
enlightenment from his turn of ways
and he might be on someone’s Council
now for all we know.
Kiri: that is something that we would
not concern ourselves with because
what he had done in the past he had
learned from.
Russ: correct but that’s what I mean,
he went through the necessary lessons
so…..
Kiri: yes but at the time what he did
was that he had people constructing
and cutting down and clear cutting an
area. Did great harm to the land and
he had an industrial complex and all
the yucky pollution that goes with
that but, from the research facilities
and the things that were related to
that came out with good things that
were able to clear up the area that he
had destroyed and replant it and
return it to back to how it was. He
had done great harm in his first 500
years and when he realized that he was
heading on a very negative path and
all these people that were in his
control that did his bidding that had
no thought of anything else but to
appease their master, he started to
change and to realize that he had to
redeem himself by doing things and
restoring the balance. What it had
took him over 450 years to do, he
restored it in 200 and restored the
balance and also the technological
advances that came from his corrupt
period in agriculture, horticulture,
all the necessary interactions with
that from that period in his life in
the long-run became good. You see they
had to or he had to go through those
steps to achieve where he was going so
it was looked upon to start off with
that he was doing great harm but, when
he decided to change radically and to
advance towards a specific goal that
would be good, he had to make some
very hard and dangerous choices which
made him look very brave.
Russ: hmm.
Kiri: hence the name that he got in
the last 350 years of his life, he
didn’t live to be 900 because of how
hard he pushed himself in the last 350
years. He pushed himself very hard and
his actions were looked upon as very
brave and long-reaching….
Russ: ahhh.
Kiri: and by taking those gambles and
putting in action a whole load of
events that are still even felt today.
The love for the land in that area is
beyond belief.
Russ: I see, well thank you, that
makes a lot more sense.
Kiri: uh-huh, any more questions?
Russ: uh-uh.
Kiri: you got questions but you just
want to get me out don’t you?
Russ: well I am a little concerned
about time.
Kiri: oh okay.
Russ: come back later if you want
dear.
Kiri: we’ll see.
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