(Kiri checks on our coercion exercises she had assigned us and corrects some bad techniques that were being tried. In doing so she demonstrates visually by using simple voice coercion to influence the help of a guest. We even get into Jedi mind trick explanations as she analyzes the coercion of Obi Wan Kenobi.) 

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Kiri: okay, talking of coercion…..

Russ: ahh yes.

Kiri: okay, first of all I want a report from both of you on your coercion.

Russ: hey, I’m rock ‘n rolling this week.

Skip: go ahead.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: party, party, party. Working on my blocks of time, people who never had them before, boom, nailing them. But ten-hour block, I got one but it was somebody who already had another block before so I just got them to increase it so I’m not sure if that quite qualifies but I got a lot of five-hour blocks done.

Kiri: okay, people that normally have five bump them up to ten, that’s the objective for next week.

Russ: I can do that.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: now in the coercive form of that, I’m throwing through the whole background, focusing being going, "ten-hour block, ten-hour block, hey, ten-hour block would be good, you’d like a ten-hour block and it’s only four bucks an hour."

Kiri: ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, I see your problem right away.

Russ: okay, that’s what I want to go over this, I'm working little bit to get this down.

Kiri: okay, you’re making it a long sentence. Now remember, let’s put yours on hold for a second, let’s see Skip’s report, let’s see if we can kill two birds with one stone because I don’t have Treebeard’s capability, pity.

Russ: ahh well.

Skip: I wasn’t supposed to do anything.

Kiri: yes you were.

Skip: no I wasn’t.

Kiri: you were supposed to get somebody to do something for you that they wouldn’t normally do. Okay, that will be your task for next week, okay?

Skip: okay.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: we in school?

Kiri: uh-huh, everybody’s in school tonight. Okay….

Russ: brrrpp, no star for Skip.

Skip: sorry I just……

Kiri: I’m trying to remember if I did tell Skip to do something.

Skip: I don't think so.

Russ: I don’t think you’d did actually, I think you asked him, “okay, what did you do, you’re supposed to do that? And he says......you're supposed to get a young person to do something he says, “I did.” And I said, “but I didn’t” so you said, “okay Russ, you’ve got to do this and sell it ten-hour block”, I don’t think you went and actually gave him anything to do.

Skip: no I don't think you did darling, that’s why I’m kind of dumbfounded here.

Russ: yeah you had that look of shock like a deer in the headlight look.

Skip: sorry about that darling.

Kiri: okay, for next week Skip you’ve got to get somebody to do something that they wouldn’t normally do for you.

Skip: all right.

Kiri: okay? Now Russ, getting back to Russ’ problem. Okay what Russ is doing is can you please repeat what you're doing?

Russ: I was working on them with the…...

Kiri: hold on. Skip you're going to help me here point out what Russ is doing wrong. Remember what coercion is. Okay, continue Russ.

Russ: okay, I’m working on them and talking to them verbally but mentally I’m projecting, "ten-hour block would be good, good with a ten-hour block, four bucks an hour, here’s the benefits, ten-hour block, let's push for that ten-hour". That kind of thing.

Kiri: but you were thinking what?

Russ: ten-hour block.

Kiri: okay and just now you said that you were thinking also that it would be good for them, it’s only four bucks an hour, is that part of the thought process or is that what you’re telling them?

Russ: yeah, I’m putting it into a sentence kind of thing yeah.

Kiri: yeah, in the thought process?

Russ: right.

Kiri: see what you're doing? What’s he doing Skip?

Skip: he’s contradicting himself.

Russ: I am?

Skip: yes you are. Don’t put your price in there, just think ten-hour block, forget what it cost per hour.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: "ten-hour block, buy." Ten-hour block, buy." Ten-hour block, buy."

Skip: that's it, nothing else. You got it darling.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: by putting all the extras and bells and whistles, what you're doing is you’re muddying the waters, you're adding distractions, you’re making too much a thought process for them.

Skip: you’re pulling their attention away from what you want them to do.

Russ: I’m glad we’re talking about this so I can streamline this down a little bit and get it more…..

Skip: ten hour block.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: dialed in.

Kiri: ten-hour block to the point. "Ten-hour block, buy." "Ten-hour block, buy." Because as I said, if you’re putting too much emphasis on, it's four bucks an hour, you’re giving them a lot to think about and a lot of it is just going….

Russ: so I’m just directing my thought going ten-hour block to the point.

Skip: that’s it.

Kiri: yeah, "ten-hour block, buy." "Ten-hour block, buy." "Ten-hour block, buy."

Russ: okay, seems easy.

Kiri: uh-huh, coercion can be very, very easy. Now when you get into the higher end of getting somebody to totally do something totally under your command, that’s when it becomes difficult and complicated if you don’t have the training. And I’m not going to go into that because the training is very complicated, very long and takes a lot of practice and mental wattage.

Russ: yes?

Skip: I got a question to ask you.

(Russ laughs)

Russ: what a lead up.

Skip: how do I coerce somebody when I don’t do it?

Kiri: okay, good question. A lot of coercion can be done vocally, a lot of vocal coercion is done through tones in the voice. Pure mental coercion, different group, sub-group, totally different. Voice coercion is by being of a persuasive tone, by making the person feel that it’s the right thing to do, it’s the proper thing to do. That’s very simple, basic coercion is manipulating somebody by what you are saying. For example, my lead up to the question that you asked was a simple demonstration of coercive ability. Are you sure the recording device is on?

Russ: double checking....

Skip: yeah, it's running.

Kiri: okay, must be getting pretty close to ending.

Russ: yeah we got movement, some ways to go though but……

Kiri: really?

Russ: yeah, probably like, looks like about five minutes at least.

Skip: yeah.

Kiri: oh okay, so I’ve got five minutes to kill. I was watching the chronometer up here and it’s saying there’s a lot less time. Okay anyway, back to coercion. The main thing is when you’re using the voice is to use certain tonal frequencies, certain gentle tones that it might be a good idea if you come with me and help me with this. If you were to stand up, walk over here and give me some assistance. Or, by setting up a word structure of, "let us look at what Russ was saying and see what’s wrong, Skip you can assist me in that". That in itself was an example of voice coercion.

Skip: then I did do that.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Skip: I mean since the last time we was together.

Kiri: okay that doesn’t count, you’ve got to do it again because we didn’t give you a project......

Skip: oh okay.

Kiri: because I was remiss and I forgot and I was being a flake and I thought I had but I hadn't.

Skip: but I do it through voice coercion.

Kiri: uh-huh. Okay but you see what I did when we were looking at your question to start off with Russ was that I coerced Skip into assisting me by using just my voice.

Skip: uh-huh.

Kiri: I didn’t use any capable powers, I didn't use Mark's coercive ability, I didn’t use mine, I didn't use anybody's apart from my voice.

Skip: yeah, yeah, okay.

Russ: all right, I have a Jedi question. Now, I’m sure you’re familiar with the "Star Wars" trilogy or at least you could’ve looked in Mark’s penguin-filled cupboards to find one and in that you notice where like in the first movie, Obi-Wan comes into town in a speeder with Luke and the guards stop them and Jedi of course, Obi-Wan says, “you don’t need to detain this person” or whatever he says and the guard goes, “we don’t need to detain this person”.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now there was a perfect form of coercion that my readers really want to hear about and……

Kiri: okay.

Russ: how is it the Jedi is doing it, what is he doing and is it possible to do it in real life?

Kiri: the impression that I got is that for the entertainment they vocalized what he was actually thinking.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: that they put it in to vocalize his thought processes, what he was actually thinking as opposed to what he was saying.

Russ: hmm, so he was like thinking out loud.

Kiri: yes, thinking out loud but for the viewers to be able to see what was actually going on. More than likely my guess would be that he was actually thinking, "you do not need to check the vehicle, you do not need to check anything".....

Russ: right.

Kiri: "those aren’t what we're looking for".

Russ: right and when Luke says, "how did you do that, I thought we were going to get caught for sure?" And Obi-Wan says, "well the weak minded are often susceptible to......." whatever.

Kiri: exactly but I think that whole entire thing was so that people could understand what was going on. Not so much as part of the plot but they had to vocalize what was actually being thought and to emphasize that they had the young man do or say what he said.

Russ: now for somebody on this planet to use a similar technique, they would have to be I would assume a grandmaster class coercer to pull off something in a similar vein.

Kiri: not necessarily.

Russ: really? Do tell.

Kiri: not necessarily. For example, by being a strong-willed individual and being able to focus in on what somebody is saying in such a way that you’re looking at them......

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: and you can perceive that where they are heading on what they are saying, you can speed up their process by giving them more of an interested look when you’re actually thinking, "okay speed up, faster, faster, I need to know where you're going". Or the look of, "I'm interested but this is as boring as hell, it’s time to end it". Have you ever noticed that sometimes people will be talking and the person is looking at them very intently and all of a sudden they just stop in mid-sentence? It’s because the other person is either very bored by what they're saying and they're trying to look like they’re interested. In fact what they’re saying is, "finish, stop, this is boring".

Russ: okay.

Kiri: and what the person actually does is stops.

Russ: well see that’s one of the reasons I’m trying to get Mark to see the new Star Wars movie because the Jedi in that use some very good techniques.

Kiri: uh-huh. Don’t underestimate Mark's coercive ability.

Russ: no I know but I mean it's just I’m watching this going wow, this is some really good stuff to learn from on proper use of coercion.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: never once do you see them use it for personal gain or anything, it’s a very good demonstration of positive coercion.

Kiri: uh-huh, positive coercion is very, very important. There is as I have told you in the past, things that you do not do when you coerce. Not to say that people will and we’ve always been very, very careful in how we word things so that there is as little as possible of the ability to take what we give you and then use it in a negative way.

Russ: hmm, anyway that was a very enlightening way of looking at that.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: it’s good to hear that that is possible in our life for just regular people.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: I think it’s a matter of being just awareness isn’t it?

Kiri: to a certain extent yes.

Russ: I mean it’s how aware you are with the person in the surroundings that you’re in is how well you can even coerce them and working with them.

Kiri: and also it’s the receptive ability of the other individual.

Russ: hmmm.

Kiri: as you brought up, a weak-willed individual is a much more receptive vessel to be told to be quiet, to shut down, to go away, to do whatever then a very strong-willed individual or a very deep thinking or a strong-minded individual. The weaker the individual’s mental capability or thought processes or comprehension, the easier it is. I can think of quite a few individuals that are so easy to coerce within both of you's immediate sphere of influence that it would be good practice to use that coercive ability to benefit not just yourselves but them in their advancement of awareness. Just using mental, not saying, but using mental coercion.

Russ: hmm.

Skip: uh-hmmm, because young people don’t have that strong will established until they get a little bit more education.

Kiri: well I’m not just saying just young people, I’m saying that there is a wide spectrum of people within your immediate sphere of influence that would be useful tools for you to learn how to use that coercive ability. Even vocally in Skip’s case and mentally in your case Russ.

Russ: hmm.

Skip: well I have an uncanny knack of being able to talk my way into or out of just about anything in the world.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Skip: and I’ve always had that.

Kiri: uh-huh, that’s because you know how to use voice coercion in a way that is very beneficial.

Skip: never thought about it as coercion though.

Kiri: well if you look at the term coercion it means to control something by your will. Okay, so controlling somebody by your will by using your voice is….

Skip:. yep, yeah I got you.

Kiri: and using your mind to do the same thing is…

Skip: yeah.

Kiri: okay. No Skip, I’m not going to tell you how to build a warp core engine, don't ask me to do that.

(Skip laughs)

skip: I love you darling, thank you.

Kiri: thank you, I love you too sweetie pie. Okay.