(Kiri gives a long dissertation on
the mindset needed to use coercion in a
beneficial manner. She moves next to the
morals of coercion and examples of coercion
throughout history. She also explains how to
avoid the God complex of coercion.)
Kiri:
okay, my brief dissertation
time. Everybody gets to
dissertate tonight apart from
Tia (speaking to Tia). Stop
sticking your tongue out hon,
I’ll bite it off. Okay…….
Russ: Lyka doesn't get a
dissertation?
Kiri: no.
Russ: oh.
Kiri: every one of the
regulars.
Russ: oh.
Kiri: okay let me see,
coercion and certain mindsets
for using coercion in a
beneficial way. How does
coercion benefit us? Well it
is a tool that is used by an
individual that is a coercer
to be able to control and
manipulate persons or entities
or beings around them for a
purpose that is beneficial to
all parties. How do you decide
what is beneficial for all
parties? Well this is more of
a gut instinct, what feels
good, what is right, what you
know to be morally…..seems to
be the flavor of the week…..to
be right. Is it moral to
coerce somebody into giving
you a job? I do love using
this analogy and I will use it
over and over again. Is it
morally right to coerce
somebody to give you a job?
Well it depends on what the
job is and whether or not you
really need that job. If it is
for betterment then yes, if it
is for self-service, no.
Because coercion is one of
those interesting little
abilities that if you don’t
use it right, it will feed
back on itself and in doing so
it will cause harm to you.
There are certain ways to keep
on the straight and narrow.
This most frequently is morals
and gut instinct, is it right,
is it wrong? Sometimes you
don’t have time to decide
whether it is right or wrong
but do it. When you do find
yourself in that situation,
you can come back later and
repair the damage that you
have done as long as you do it
with good intentions at heart,
it is easy to repair any
damage that you might have
done. If it is done with a
self-serving purpose and you
know this, then it becomes
more difficult to repair the
damage that has been done but
more necessary to repair the
damage that has been done
because if that is left
unaddressed, it will come back
to haunt you at a later time.
Coercion in itself is a good
tool, it's a very useful tool
but it is one of the more
harder ones to actually master
and use beneficially. It is
quite common from what I have
heard on a third dimensional
level to use it in a negative
way. Sometimes coercion is
used in what appears to be a
negative way. For example, let
us take my favorite topic,
somebody that is sexually
repressed and they have
difficulty interacting in a
sexual way. Using coercion to
seduce a person like that,
that wants to be sexually
active and interactive is good
because it frees up their
libido from being bottled up
and pent-up inside them. So by
seducing somebody that wants
to be seduced but is used to
having their sexual urges
repressed can be beneficial.
Sometimes however you can
unleash a monster as has
happened quite a few times in
the history of the world.
Somebody that becomes after
being coerced into becoming
sexually active that turns
into a sexual monster appetite
wise has to be refocused and
have that urge addressed
because it will destroy them.
For example, Katrina the
Great, she was seduced and
became very sexually active,
it ruled her life. Certainly
she was a great leader as a
czarina, she could of been a
lot better if she wasn’t
hopping in and out of beds
half the time. Another
example, I can’t remember her
name (Pasiphaë), but she
became very sexually active in
Greek mythology and ended up
being seduced by a bull and
giving birth to the Minotaur.
This is a myth but it is also
a way of looking at being
overly sexually active. Now,
when that situation occurs,
the person that has opened up
this individual to their
sexual excesses needs to be
the person that puts the
proverbial cork back in the
bottle but do not turn the
person back into a sexually
repressed person. They must
learn how to have a sexual,
sexually normal life but that
again depends from the
individual to individual. What
is normal for me may not be
normal for you. So, by using
your coercion to help somebody
in a sexually repressed state
has to be done very carefully
and how you do this is little
by little, bit by bit.
Otherwise as I pointed out,
you will have a sexual monster
on your hands. If you use it
repeatedly and repeatedly and
repeatedly to have an intimate
reaction with the person that
is sexually repressed, you
will create the monster. You
have to be able to do it as
few times as possible for them
to lead a normal life.
Certainly coercing them to
become sexually active to
start off with is the only way
that successfully works but if
you use it the next time and
the next time the next time,
then you will create a
monster. But if you don’t use
it on the second time and it
happens and you make love with
that person, it must be done
differently then the first
time. It must be either very
hard and fast or very slow and
tender. It has to be the
opposite of the initial
coercive action so that they
experience both sides of the
coin. I suppose I could get
myself a job as a sexual
therapist on this, don't you
think so Russ?
Russ: I’d go.
Kiri: of course you would go,
you don’t need coercing on
that. Do you have any
questions now?
Russ: yes, this ties along
kind of with what Karra was
saying in regards to the fact
that isn’t being as a coercer
subject to also that God
complex?
Kiri: yes.
Russ: and beating that down,
could you give me some and our
audience of hundreds of
listeners a….
Kiri: an example?
Russ: an example of how to
beat it down, how to not do
it, how to get around it or
get out of it.
Kiri: I’ve never experienced
it. From what I’ve heard, it
happens on the third
dimension. Our educational
system up here sets in certain
rules that are, think what you
are doing, think of the
negative and the positive.
Negative first, what can go
wrong? What harm can you do?
Then think of the positive and
what good can come from
coercion. So by having these
simple structures and sitting
down in a learning environment
and debating the negatives of
coercing in itself drives home
the point that you can have
failures and frequently you
have failures in the early
years learning how to use
coercion. On the third
dimension, I don’t really have
the experience to be able to
tell you what you must do to
overcome that God experience
except for again sooner or
later it will happen where you
will brought down.
Russ: hmm, okay. Well I know
you talked about that one
corrupt coercer on Sirius.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: and it sounds like a
similar situation where he had
a God complex.
Kiri: no, he just got his
kicks from doing harm.
Russ: oh. Okay, now you did
make one little statement
there that I have a little
problem with......
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: that maybe you can
clarify where you said through
your studies, it appears to
be…..it’s much harder to act
in a negative manner coercably
on the third dimension.
Kiri: I meant that the
opposite way around.
Russ: thank you. I had one or
two little, slight problems
with that when you said that.
Kiri: uh-huh, it’s easier on
the third dimensional to…
Russ: easier yes.
Kiri: yes coerce in a negative
way.
Russ: I was going to say, wait
a minute. Okay yeah that makes
more sense now.
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, my time is
up.
Russ: bye Kiri.
Kiri: bye.
(Ed. note: she
actually said, "Coercion
in itself is a good tool, it's a
very useful tool but it is one of
the more harder ones to actually
master and use beneficially. It is
quite common from what I have
heard on a third dimensional level
to use it in a negative way.")
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