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(In this session, Karra covers the upper chakras of the crown, throat and heart chakras where she compares the rotation rates between those of the sixth dimension and those of the third dimension and why there are significant changes between the two. Beyond the spin rates are explanations on what the chakras do and what they control. This would be considered university level education for anyone interested in chakras. She takes the opportunity to open up the chakras on Mark’s body in a demonstration on energy looping. We even get a slight demonstration on possible levitation as well.) 

Karra: hey hon.

Russ: hey darling, how you doing?

Karra: oh I’m doing good, what can I do for you?

Russ: well my love, we’re working on a bunch of good stuff tonight.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: Kiri was working on a lot of good stuff.

Karra: she always does.

Russ: uh-huh and we were…..

Karra: I think she does so well the fact that she was asked at short notice.

Russ: yeah and she filled in quite nicely actually which is a just a question I had turned into a full dissertation.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: which is really quite nice.

Karra: yes she improvises so well.

Russ: yes she did. Anyway……..oh…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: we were going to discuss our phase two of chakras and…..

Karra: oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, sorry, my mind is on the trip.

Russ: no problem darling, did you want to skip that and go on to something else?

Karra: okay, what did we cover? We covered the……

Russ: root chakra, first three chakras basically.

Karra: okay let go and start from the top to the bottom this time so it’s the crown….

Russ: oh excellent.

Karra: the throat and the heart.

Russ: third eye.

Karra: I thought it was crown, throat and heart?

Russ: uh-uh.

Karra: well the crown and the third eye are basically the same anyway.

Russ: oh are they? Oh I thought it was two separate.

Karra: well there are sub-ones but I’m taking the crown as these are important ones.

Russ: oh okay.

Karra: okay the crown, the spiritual crowning glory, the spiritual center of the consciousness......and it’s just a term.

Russ: of course.

Karra: okay, the crown chakra and the revolutionary speed and the opening and closing capability. Now because this is a spiritual chakra that controls the spiritual growth and reactions and all the capabilities, it has a lot of power and surprisingly enough because of that does not rotate very fast at all.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: a normal third dimensional individual will rotate between 15 and 20 cycles a second as opposed to the lower chakras, I believe the root chakra rotates at 150 to 200.

Russ: right.

Karra: no it’s….

Russ: no because that’s in sixth dimension it rotates that fast.

Karra: uh-huh you’re quite correct no, third dimension it’s 150 to 200 and on the sixth it’s about a thousand five hundred to two.

Russ: oh okay, okay…..

Karra: yeah.

Russ: I’m missing a zero that’s right.

Karra: uh-huh. Now, on the sixth dimension the crown chakra will rotate at approximately 53 to 63 cycles a second, not that much difference actually is there?

Russ: well it’s 35, 40.

Karra: uh-huh but not that much difference, not a whole hundred.

Russ: right.

Karra: or almost a thousand.

Russ: right.

Karra: but the difference in speed is significant.

Russ: really?

Karra: when you think……..well it’s only 35, 40 cycles a second but it is significant.

Russ: okay.

Karra: due to the fact that because the crown chakra has such a massive function controlling the spiritual and the abilities, the burden on it is tremendous. On a third dimensional level because the burden and the slow revolutionary speed, it will wear out faster than it will on the sixth dimension, especially with the longer life expectancy. Now the closing and opening is slower again as opposed to the root chakra. Even on the third dimension it is noticeably slower and it will not open as wide on the third dimension as the root chakra, it is also thicker. On the sixth dimension it is a little thinner and it will open much, much wider almost to full, almost to an invisible ribbon. That is because the polarity is actually starting to reverse. The idea is to or a common idea is to have all the chakras open and rotate at the same speed, doesn’t work that way unfortunately due to the fact that if the crown chakra was rotating at the same speed as the root chakra, it would be a little like a spinning top going off kilter. Because of the size of the crown chakra, it does have to rotate at a lower speed to create stability within the spiritual body and throughout all the chakras. The opening and closing on the third dimensional chakra with the bandwidth is more related to the intellectual level. With intellectual growth on the third dimension comes spiritual growth, the ability to focus and to increase one’s own chakra rotational speed. Okay that’s the crown chakra, you have questions obviously honey.

Russ: of course. All right first off you mentioned wearing out…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: chakras wear out?

Karra: it’s a terminology, they start to pick up and slow down. They pick up all sorts of extraneous matter……well not matter but problems…..they start to break down because of the load that goes through them.

Russ: what age does this usually occur at?

Karra: later in life.

Russ: oh okay.

Karra: but mental trauma, dysfunction of the brain, abuse of the brain, neglect of the brain, those will all accelerate the breakdown.

Russ: like Omal said not learning one thing at a time kind of thing?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: or one thing a day?

Karra: one thing a day.

Russ: yes.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and another thing you mentioned was bandwidth. Now I fully understand bandwidth in another terminology altogether……

Karra: yes computers.

Russ: in computers, what are you talking about?

Karra: okay it’s actually the thickness of the chakra. Even though they are invisible…..

Russ: right.

Karra: the chakras vary in width this way and this way from individual to individual and from chakra to chakra.

Russ: oh, I didn’t know that.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now is this like a muscle?

Karra: yes, the way it contracts and expands is like a muscle.

Russ: what about the size of it?

Karra: again, it is relevant to the part of the body and its function. The fact that……

Russ: I mean being between individual to individual.

Karra: yes again it varies in size from individual to individual.

Russ: ahhh, okay, I understand.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: thank you.

Karra: you had another question but you’ve lost it haven't you?

Russ: no, I have no clue on it.

Karra: yes……

Russ: it was something about oh yeah, I think you mentioned revolutions per....or cycles and I said revolutions.

Karra: it’s about the same.

Russ: about the same.

Karra: yeah. Okay let us move down to the throat chakra.

Russ: okay.

Karra: now the throat chakra is one of the smallest chakras but it’s also one of the most powerful. On a normal human being, a third dimensional human being and this is going to blow you away, the revolution is about 2,500 to thirty hundred cycles a second.

Russ: wow.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: yeah you weren’t kidding.

Karra: now this is a very unusual and complicated little chakra which I’m not going to go into too much detail because this is where it gets difficult and technical. On a sixth dimensional being it’s actually much slower.

Russ: okay.

Karra: about I should say 250 to 150.

Russ: that definitely does not make logical sense.

Karra: no it doesn’t but it’s the way it is. One of the reasons is the fact that the speech process and patterns are less important than the mental capabilities.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: so therefore it does not need to rotate so highly. You are a vocal race, most third dimensional races are......

Russ: ahh.

Karra: so the chakra needs to work within that capability.

Russ: does it have anything to do with telepathy?

Karra: yesss.

Russ: ahhhh.

Karra: hence the reason why the crown chakra rotates so rapidly as opposed to the throat chakra.

Russ: ahhh okay, got ya.

Karra: see the reverse there.

Russ: yeah….

Karra: now because it is so important on the third dimension, it is a thick and heavy chakra and it has a wide bandwidth, almost a bandwidth of about an inch. It opens and closes are much wider than on the sixth. The sixth, it opens and closes quite slowly and rotates quite slowly and is much thinner. It is very common on the third for it to do what all the other chakras do on the sixth and to become almost a thin, iridescent ribbon whereas on the sixth that’s almost unheard of. The only person I think that would have it open and become almost an almost invisible ribbon would be Tia with her talkative skill.

Russ: interesting.

Karra: uh-huh, but her chakra rotates at a slower speed also because uses both her mind as well as her vocal cords.

Russ: right.

Karra: okay let’s answer questions on that.

Russ: okay, you mentioned the fact that it turns into a thin, invisible ribbon……

Karra: almost.

Russ: almost.

Karra: almost invisible.

Russ: now on sixth dimension that’s more common for the other chakras…..

Karra: correct.

Russ: and that’s when they’re being in use……

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: in other words, not just its status point……

Karra: correct.

Russ: or stasis. So in third dimension with myself being a communicator, where would mine be rotating somewhere near there?

Karra: pretty rapidly.

Russ: okay.

Karra: and frequently it does achieve the thin, almost invisible ribbon.

Russ: now when does this happen though?

Karra: normally when the revolutionary speed of the crown chakra starts to accelerate.....

Russ: oh I see.

Karra: when the thought processes are being engaged. Because you need your vocal cords to communicate and the energy flow to them and to the crown chakra needs to be used so therefore it starts to rotate faster. 

Russ: okay, I get it. Interesting, so the two are connected quite closely.

Karra: very closely.

Russ: hmm, so the faster the crown chakra spins…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: the faster the throat chakra spins……

Karra: uh-huh on the third dimension.

Russ: on the third dimension.

Karra: however, it’s the opposite on the sixth.

Russ: how fascinating.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: the faster the crown chakra spins, the slower the throat chakra spins.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I’ll be damned, I’m glad we brought this up.

Karra: uh-huh, I told you it was a very unusual and complicated little chakra.

Russ: yes it is.

Karra: now, I’ve only covered probably the first page out of the book….

Russ: oh.

Karra: on the throat chakra for the simple reason that it gets very complicated and very convoluted and there are quite a few things in there that sound like contradictions until you read further.

Russ: ahh, which is what we’re getting to now but then........

Karra: no we’re not going to get to that.....

Russ: we're not going to get to that. 

Karra: because it is so convoluted and complicated that it is hard to comprehend without first looking at more detail in the capability of each chakra.

Russ: right.

Karra: okay and as we're only lightly doing them and we have limited time, it is something that we will skip over and revisit in more detail other chakras. We will take a chakra and we will analyze it to death over a period of weeks.

Russ: excellent, alright.

Karra: okay now finally……

(Russ hits his chest)

Russ: the heart chakra. 

Karra: the heart chakra, the chakra that controls many different functions in fact it controls all other chakras.

Russ: oh really?

Karra: uh-huh. It is the master chakra however, if it reaches a point where it is operating very slowly and an individual becomes very unemotional, the crown chakra will take over and basically restart and reactivate and control the heart chakra. Basically it is the chakra that controls the other chakras as well as desires and a few other things that we will cover and as I said we're covering lightly at the moment because of the time limitations but at a future time we will revisit each individual chakra. Okay, the revolutionary speed of a heart chakra on the third dimension, 35,000 to 45,000, very rapid.

Russ: (whistles)

Karra: it is rapid due to the fact of the existence of the individual. It varies from species to species as well but, the reason why it runs so rapidly is because of the life expectancy.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: on the sixth dimension it is about 75,000 to 85,000 depending on an individual and race to race.

Russ: wow.

Karra: very rapid, very fast. Its opening and closing is actually quite slow in comparison to its speed. It seems that the higher the revolutionary speed the slower it will open, the lower the revolutionary speed the faster it will open. There are many different theories on why, many, many different theories and they do conflict. Basically, let us take both extremes. The extreme view is that the reason why it opens slower at a faster revolutionary speed is because all the other chakras are working at a much higher and faster speed, of course this is sixth dimension.

Russ: of course.

Karra: with exception of the throat chakra. Now, what the heart chakra is actually doing is regulating the flow from below to up and to back down. The faster the processes of the other chakras with exception of the throat chakra will be regulated and the flow will fluctuate according to the desire and the necessary energy flow for that situation. The wider the chakra is, the more energy flow is deemed or theorized to be necessary. Okay the other side, the other end of the spectrum, the reason why it opens slower at a faster rate is to act as a braking system so that the energy flow does not overload the important chakras and the energy flow is detained and bottled in the throat chakra and held there until necessary. As the energy builds up, the heart chakra will open up wider until it is necessary for it to push through to the crown chakra through the throat chakra. See the two opposites?

Russ: right. 

Karra: I’m not quite sure which to believe, as I said there are many, many different theories. It is not fully understood why they do what they do or the heart chakra does what it does. By opening slower at a higher revolution as opposed to wider and faster at a lower revolution, it’s all very confusing isn't it?

Russ: yeah.

Karra: okay, questions.

Russ: oh I got a bunch here.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now this almost sounds a lot like a group meta-concert….

Karra: yes it does to a certain extent.

Russ: how they work.

Karra: yes, they’ve all got to work in cooperation with each other.

Russ: well like the heart’s working like a conductor, the crown's working like a engineer or executive.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and the rest are all working as…..

Karra: supplying the energy.

Russ: right.

Karra: yes, yes it does actually doesn’t it?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: in fact the phrase that they use is orchestrating the chakras.

Russ: interesting.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: group meta-concert, orchestrating hmm, interesting terminology. Well the one point on that is okay, if that is a fact, then when you’re working with this energy and let’s say for example you're working with a negative feedback loop…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: or any kind of feedback loop.........

Karra: okay.

Russ: that energy is traveling through each of the chakras.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now is the heart regulating that energy flow?

Karra: yes.

Russ: okay, because it’s going through the chakras.

Karra: okay what I’m going to do…..we’ll keep talking but you will ask longer questions and I will answer shortly because I'm going concentrate and……..thank you…..the technician has given me full control….

Russ: excellent.

Karra: that means I can open up the eyes if I want but I’m not going to because I have to close my eyes up here. Okay, going to watch the body, it’s probably going to if I get it right will lift a little but it will definitely get a lot hotter. You watch the color in the cheeks and everything change and the color of the hands. Okay ask away and it may cause static on recording so you have speak up a bit, okay here we go.

Russ: okay, so as the energy’s coming through, you're following a train of energy that connects each chakra. As it does so, that chakra that the energy goes to opens wider and spins faster.......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: up the chain as it progresses.

Karra: or down the chain depending on what is needed to be done.

Russ: ahh, correct.

Karra: for example, by increasing the revolutionary speed and no problems yet, what is happening is…..let’s say I’m feeding down through which is what I’m doing the moment……I’m increasing deliberately the rotation and slowing down the throat chakra to a speed that is increasing and widening the abilities. We can try this sometime when you have a moment alone when there’s no external influences or anybody talking at you.

Russ: okay. Yeah I see some more color coming to his cheeks.

Karra: uh-huh. Okay ask the next question.

Russ: okay. As the energy becomes thinner and thinner……

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: to become more of just a very bright, thin line…… 

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: what does that do to the chakras at that point?

Karra: okay, as they rotate at a higher speed with the exception of the throat chakra and the crown chakra……what is.......not crown, heart chakra…..is that the enlargement that is occurring when you push them to the maximum which is what I’m doing at the moment……I’ve reached his maximum…..is increasing the energy flow and the abilities.

Russ: hmm. And is this a permanent change in those or just a temporary change?

Karra: depends on how they are used afterwards.

Russ: so if they are used afterwards in any way…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that opens up those various blocked doorways?

Karra: yes to a certain extent yes. For example, using even just one ability 24 hours afterwards will continue to keep the energy flow going. Mark may be pleasantly surprised by the increased ease that he can do his astral travel.

Russ: I see.

Karra: if it was you, it would be the increased ease in using your healing abilities or whichever ability you choose to use, manifestation, etc..

Russ: right. Now what I understand is we can do this feedback loop anytime of the day every day if we wanted to…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and we could see an increase in our skills at that point.

Karra: yes.

Russ: this is a great idea.

Karra: there are certain drawbacks.

Russ: I figured there would be.

Karra: doing it repetitively day after day, you can actually increase to the size that you want however, by not letting the tissue or the chakras heal, giving them time to heal, they become sensitive and become damaged.

Russ: ahhh.

Karra: if you let them heal too long, they build up something very similar to scar tissue which means that they become slower and more difficult to use.

Russ: that's how we answer this then.

Karra: uh-huh, so it has to be measured carefully and unfortunately it varies from individual to individual.

Russ: now, the warning signs that you’re exercising your chakras too much are….

Karra: pain.

Russ: oh really?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: physical pain?

Karra: yes, physical pain, headaches…..headaches are not counted because that is actually the muscle working. If it is a too intense headache, what is actually occurring is that you are getting to the point where you are maxing out.

Russ: ahhh.

Karra: but a headache is expected and normal.

Russ: okay.

Karra: but when Mark comes back you might want to watch to see how much of a headache he does have.

Russ: okay.

Karra: an acute headache will…..is a sign that you should stop immediately, a light headache is expected, a medium headache is a warning sign that you may want to stop if you go any further. Okay, pain in the stomach, the heart or the throat, stop immediately especially the heart. If the heart starts to feel irregular, shut down the loop, stop what you’re doing and relax.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: okay the only pain that I’m experiencing by getting his chakras to match mine is I’m getting a little, light headache.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay and we have a technician monitoring his brainwave patterns which are a little erratic but that’s because the speed is probably halfway between his and mine…

Russ: okay.

Karra: which I don’t think they’ve ever rotated that fast before.

Russ: now what is the length of time that you need to rest between sessions do you feel?

Karra: it varies from individual but a rule of thumb is probably somewhere between 48 and 72 hours.

Russ: oh excellent.

Karra: uh-huh. For some individuals it will be higher, for some lower.

Russ: we each have a base for your Pacific….

Karra: specific.

Russ: specific….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: pain the next time you do it.

Karra: uh-huh. Now, the temperature in your room should’ve increased quite a bit.

Russ: yes it did, it’s quite comfortable in here.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay……

Karra: okay his ears are turning red right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: good.

Russ: excellent, now what about blood flows, his increasing blood flows……

Karra: yes, very much so, hence the reason why his cheeks are very flushed, his hands are very flushed, in fact they're showing up almost as white on the monitors up here and his ears are starting to turn white.

Russ: hmm okay, so this is good for cold weather too?

Karra: uh-huh. Okay I'm actually I’m starting to get a little bit of pain so I'm going to start slowing every...…..nope it’s gone.

Russ: okay so now with children……

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: or adults or whoever wants to increase their skills, this would be a good exercise then to start
practicing with, with a very cautious beginning……

Karra: very cautious.

Russ: working into a more advanced regimen later on once you’ve mastered a few basic…….

Karra: correct.

Russ: precautions.

Karra: correct.

Russ: hmm excellent, great for the webpage.

Karra: uh-huh. Okay, I’m going to start slowing down everything back down as we have limited time.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay and we have a few other things to cover.

Russ: okay.

Karra: opps.

Russ: what do you mean opps? Opps isn’t good.

Karra: no, you want to see how far…..I’m not quite sure because we can’t see it but I think we have maybe a slight levitation going on?

Russ: can’t tell, looks still firmly on that futon.

Karra: oh he is? Okay because I’m…..

Russ: he’s not off the ground let's put it that way.

Karra: yeah because all of a sudden the weight that I felt for his body because as I have full control I feel his body as if it's mine, suddenly the whole entire left side felt very light.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: did the body tip or anything?

Russ: no.

Karra: okay. Oh well, it felt like it was stating to levitate which might be entertaining for a picture but…

Russ: yeah it won’t do much good on tape.

Karra: no. Okay…..

Russ: ahh.....excellent, that’s….

Karra: yeah because it suddenly felt a little disconcerting, that’s why I went opps.

Russ: no, no nothing on our side.

Karra: okay the color should start to return to normal in a second here.

Russ: excellent.

Karra: okay we're going to continue to monitor……..he was levitating on the left side.

Russ: oh he was?

Karra: uh-huh…sorry right side.

Russ: oh right side, well I can’t see the right side.

Karra: because the body did roll a little.

Russ: oh.

Karra: okay, anyway carry on.

Russ: okay excellent. So in chakra use and the management of your chakras, just like your regular body it’s good to keep them healthy and these chakras are particularly responsible for the physical health of the body….

Karra: yes.

Russ: and how well you keep your chakras healthy is how well your body...

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: or is it the other way around?

Karra: it’s actually how well your body will do, also diet is important.

Russ: okay so that’s where the diet is helping the chakras….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but the chakras help the body.

Karra: uh-huh. 

Russ: okay oh, also there was a question that was brought up about there’s a planetary conjunction coming up apparently? I didn’t know about it but apparently somebody at the café I go to told me about it. She was wondering what affects that might have on our planet here.

Karra: asking the wrong person, don’t forget I’m not the astrophysicist or the physicist or the astronomer.

Russ: maybe Kiri would better.

Karra: yes it would be.

Russ: I’ll check next week.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: bye love.

Karra: okay we're going to continue monitoring his chakras.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay?

Russ: all right, bye.