(Karra covers the lower
chakras of the human body as a prelude to
the upper ones done at later session already
posted. This time the differences between
the sixth dimension and the third dimension
and she gives anyone interested in the
ascension process a crucial clue needed for
that to happen. One of the keys are the
chakras and how fast they rotate which is
something we are able to control on the
third dimension with enough intention.)
Karra: okay, where do we
go from here?
Russ: well I want to do some
discussion if I could on sixth
dimension compared to third
dimension and the use of the various
chakras between the two dimensions.
Russ: now I figured you’d be the
person to talk to on that….
Russ: being as you’ve got a very
good knowledge on the chakra system.
Karra: yes and of course I was
already aware you were going to ask
those questions so I am ready.
Russ: well I suppose that’s cheating
but okay, we’re working this evening
on third dimensional use of chakras
to a certain point and that would be
to the solar plexus.
Russ: mainly sticking around the
base chakra and the second chakra.
Russ: that being of course due to
survival, fear being a main factor
in maintaining those to that point.
Karra: okay, first of all let’s look
at the root chakra……
Karra: and compare the third and the
sixth dimensions. First of all, the
third dimension has a spinning cycle
that is a lot less and a lot slower
than the sixth dimensional for the
obvious reasons. The spirituality
awareness involved, reflects in the
speed of the chakra. How the chakras
open and close, again also
differences occur between the third
and the sixth. They tend to open up
much, much wider almost to the point
of just being a thin, circular
ribbon on the sixth whereas on the
third they don’t open up anywhere
near as close except for people of
extreme spiritual awareness. People
like popes, llamas, Buddhas, priests
of extreme knowledge but again they
don’t get as wide as they do on
normal persons on the sixth
dimension. On the sixth dimension
holy people, extreme holy people,
their chakras will almost fade into
an almost invisible band that is
totally unperceptible because they
are so open and spiritually aware.
We have had, we being by my younger
sibling and myself, have had
experience with people that have
chakras that turn into a very thin,
thin ribbon due to the fact that our
grandmother is like that.
Karra: this normally happens in
great states of for want of a better
word grace. When our grandmother is
in between world’s doing what she
does best, her chakra is almost
totally invisible. It is my
considered belief and my sister's
considered belief that this is due
to the fact that she is in limbo
between worlds. Okay getting back to
other differences in chakras in
general but primarily the lower
chakras, the rotation is also in a
different direction. For example,
most people on your planet, their
chakras spin left to right. On
Sirius, most people and I say most,
spin from right to left.
Karra: this is not any serious
difference, it is more of a
genetical and physical difference
but nothing that is of importance
but it is worth noting as it does
affect the equilibrium as it were.
Karra: now with the more spiritually
unenlightened, the chakras rotate
very, very slowly and hardly open at
all, some don’t even open at all.
The spiritual natures of the chakras
and the rotation is also reflected
in the instinctual capacity. The
more instinctual a person is, the
slower the rotation and the opening
and the closing is. For example,
again let’s go back to my beloved
grandmother, her chakras rotate at a
very, very high speed and open and
close very rapidly and very wide.
They can go from a state of rest
when she is dormant where they are
rotating fairly rapidly which is
normal for her to where they are
rotating way beyond.......trying to
think of a phrase.....circular saw
rates. Way beyond.......let us
estimate or guesstimate......at
about 1,500 to 2,000 cycles per
second, that’s very, very high. A
normal cycle on the third dimension,
let us say a spiritually enlightened
person on the third dimension,
rotates at about 150 to 200, big
Karra: a less spiritually aware or a
person……you’ll have to excuse me I’m
being politically correct….
Russ: that’s all right, no problem.
Karra: less spiritually enlightened
person, their’s rotates at maybe 15
to 20 cycles a second, very, very
slow. An average person, their’s
will rotates at about between 80 to
100. So you see that there are major
differences from somebody that is
less instinctual, less anxiety
ridden to somebody that is more
instinctual and more anxiety ridden.
You have some questions?
Russ: okay first off, you mentioned
spiritual quite heavily throughout
Russ: and the correlation it has
with the speed of the chakras.
Russ: now for someone who is let’s
say reading the page and comes upon
this, the question would come about
with the terminology of spiritual
and the use of the term in everyday
life. For example whether spiritual
on sixth dimension equals
spirituality on third dimension.
Karra: yes to a certain extent it
does. Spirituality is not believing
in a God, gods, goddesses, it’s
living a life that is in tune, in
tune with nature, feeling the
spiritual vibes around them. It’s
not going and praying every day, it
is not being pious or following a
particular religion, it is being in
tune with nature where a lot of the
spirit elements come from, the
Karra: to be a spiritual person you
don’t have to be cloistered away in
a monastery or sequestered in a
religious facility or walk a
religious path, it is being in tune
with everyday surroundings,
appreciating the beauty of freshly
fallen snow, appreciating the
sunrise, the sunset, appreciating
the existence of life itself.
Feeling the air, realizing that the
cold, harsh air is as much a part of
life as the warm, humid air.
Russ: so the term stop and smell the
roses comes into effect at this
Karra: yes, very much so. A
spiritual person will take the time
to talk to a child eye to eye.
Karra: yeah get down to the child’s
eye. A spiritual person will also be
very, very harsh.
Karra: more along the lines of using
a kick in the pants when all else
Russ: uh-huh, understandable.
Russ: okay, you also bring up the
term instinctual. Now this of course
would relate to our ancestors who
were very instinctual in the matter
of survival needs.
Russ: now many of those same traits
have genetically passed through to
those on the third dimension but in
most people they’ve been lessened to
a great degree and others they're
still quite heavily influenced.
Karra: no they're still there.
Karra: they're still there, they’re
just changed the environment.
Russ: I see.
Karra: an instinctual reaction is a
reaction that is necessary for
Karra: it is instinctual to breathe
but that’s not what I’m getting at.
The instinctual reaction is for
example to get defensive when
Karra: to become aggressive when
somebody else is being aggressive,
whether it is in mannerisms or in
wording. To use various defense
mechanisms when threatened. People
that are very instinctual know
exactly if this situation happens
and they use a opposite reaction,
they’re going to achieve much more
effect when they answer fire with
Russ: right. Okay now the next part
is using control of the speed of
your chakras, is it a ability that
we're able to develop to speed up
our chakras to a higher level
through focusing maybe?
Karra: yes but okay, let us do a
dissertation on that.......
Karra: in comparison with third and
Karra: okay the third dimensional
chakra rotation of the more
spiritually enlightened as I said is
between 1,500 to 2,000.
Karra: okay.....no sorry, 150 to
Russ: ahh okay.
Karra: yeah I because about to say,
I'm still thinking on the sixth.
Russ: all right.
Karra: okay let’s start off with the
Russ: all right.
Karra: 1,500 to 2,000 cycles a
Karra: okay, the reason that the
revolutions are so high is that the
more spiritually aware on the sixth
dimension are closer to being able
to shift between spiritual realms,
the physical and the spiritual,
between the dimensions that they
inhabit and lower dimensions. Some
are fortunate in being able to do
that with the higher dimension,
being able to astral travel to the
seventh and the eighth dimensions
and being able to rotate at a speed
that is even though not that
advanced compared to the seventh and
the eighth, it is enough for them to
maintain the focus. Looking at it,
the higher the revolutionary cycle,
the more spiritually evolved an
individual is. I estimate again my
grandmother’s cycle to be somewhere
around about 1,600 to 1,700 which is
very, very fast. It appears that the
thinner the ribbon of the chakra
once they're fully open and
enlarged, also reflects to the
spiritual awareness and the
closeness to being able to achieve
the change to the seventh. It also
ties in with a higher cycle. Having
a high cycle of approximately 1,600
to 1,700 cycles a second and a
fairly thin chakra ribbon when
they’re fully open, almost to the
point of being imperceptibly
visible, it doesn’t necessarily
dictate that an individual is ready
to achieve ascension to a higher
level. Sometimes it is just the very
nature of the spiritual person. What
I’m saying is that my grandmother
probably unlikely is ready to go to
the seventh dimension.
Karra: however on the lower
dimension, on the third dimension,
having a cycle that is between 150
to 2,000 does open that possibility
of ascension to the sixth dimension.
Again, with the increase in the
opening of the chakra, would also
imply that it is more spiritually
available to ascension as is the
opposite or not the opposite but the
difference between the sixth
dimension and the third, it doesn’t
automatically dictate. On the third,
it means that the potential is much
higher than on the sixth. This is
because the third being much more
dense and much harder or harsher
universe or dimension, makes it much
more difficult to achieve the
revolutionary cycles and the opening
and closing of the chakras at such a
wide difference. But also in the
nature of the chakras, the
similarity being that they're used
very much for the same purpose. The
purpose of freeing up the
instinctual ability and the
spiritual awareness for advancement.
In being able to achieve the
circular increase, it is also able
to achieve a more rapid spiritual
Karra: but one of the difficulties
involving emotional status is that
sometimes as the revolutionary speed
increases and the opening of the
chakra becomes wider, it also
sometimes can make an individual
very emotionally erratic.
Karra: not so much in the ability
going from one extreme to the other
or from a high to a low, it means
that it is hard to plot a emotional
stability that the roller coaster
ride whilst the peaks may be very,
very long and the troughs very, very
long to get there, there is a
definite disadvantage to being
Karra: however, there are
individuals that do advance and
their cycles increase and the
rotational speed up to 200 cycles a
second and they do open wide that
are very, very emotionally stable,
almost emotionally devoid although
they do have emotions but they are
hidden and controlled. One
individual that springs to mind is
the Dalai Lama, our most favorite
individual that springs to mind as a
matter of fact. Okay?
Russ: okay well you answered two
questions there, one you mentioned
it was going on third dimension from
150 to 2,000, I assume you meant
Russ: okay. And the other is, I had
assumed that the denseness as you
mentioned of third dimension would
be the difficulty in speeding up the
Russ: but the chakras as far as I
know have no mass.
Russ: so how is it that they're
affected by the denseness of a
Karra: because they are physical……
Russ: they are?
Karra: not just spiritual.
Karra: or even spiritual is physical
but it is a different kind of
physical. Something doesn’t have to
be seen to be physical.
Russ: so they are controlled by
Karra: by the body.
Karra: you see? That is the answer
to your next question, how does the
physical body affect the chakras?
Karra: because of the movement of
the body through the denseness of
the third dimension affects the
rotation and speed of the chakras
that are physical but not visible.
Russ: hmm. So…..
Karra: you get it don’t you?
Russ: yeah, I've seen that the
spiritual part of nature as you say
as we go through and we experience
it, it speeds up our chakras.
Russ: but sitting around watching TV
and being devoid of that
Russ: maintains the chakras at a
Russ: okay. Now what about in
churches where many people have
gathered and in a religious, in
their sense gathering, are they
automatically raising each other
Karra: no, no, it doesn’t quite work
that way. When third dimensional
beings gather in a church, most are
feeling that they’ve got to fulfill
an obligation. Negative emotion,
fulfilling a obligation. They really
don’t want to be there but they have
to be as they are involved in a
Karra: and that they feel that they
have to go and pray to their God in
their religious facility so it is an
Russ: well before we get in too much
trouble here, well there was one in
Oregon that was something that was
more of a thing where people wanted
to be at…..
Russ: than just were kind of forced
to be at or were obligated to be at.
(this was a church I was a member of
for a year where I lived in Oregon)
Karra: yes, if it is more wanting to
and everybody wants to, yes the
increase does happen.
Russ: ahh excellent.
Karra: having talked to Mark today
as I’m sure you’re aware……
Karra: one of the things that I did
ask him about was the Druid religion
that he’s involved in.
Russ: oh yes.
Karra: and that their churches are
Russ: oh yes right, absolutely.
Karra: and most Druids from the
opportunities that I’ve had to
analyze and watch, are more
spiritually in tune and their
chakras do rotate at a much higher
frequency than most people because
they don’t feel obligated and
they’re surrounded by their church
whenever they go outside.
Karra: so that they're always at
church so as a rule, the Druids tend
to be more spiritually enlightened
than people that are in an organized
one day a week religion paying
homage to a deity that they feel
Russ: I see. Okay…..
Karra: I’m deliberately choosing my
words very carefully because I am
walking a tightrope.
Russ: good call. Now, the benefits
of an open and more rapidly spinning
Russ: health, well-being, so on.
Karra: yes, yes there are health and
well-being most certainly but also
health is not just a chakra thing. A
chakra will continue to spin at a
higher rate in a more spiritually
aware person even if they are in
poor health. Even though their
chakra will slow down, in comparison
to normal, everyday third
dimensional people, it will continue
to rotate at a higher frequency.
Russ: hmmm, I’m sure we could spend
hours on just chakras alone.......
Karra: oh most certainly, most
certainly and the effects that they
Russ: we still haven’t gotten
anything higher than the solar
Karra: no, no. I will add that the
standard rotational speed of chakras
vary from chakra to chakra.
Karra: 1,500 to 2,000 are the lower
Karra: that’s an average between the
two. If we go up higher to the
heart, the brow, and the crown…..or
the throat chakra sorry……you will
see a wild difference.
Karra: the crown chakra on my
grandmother rotates at about 16 to
19,000 per second.
Karra: the top end of the more
spiritually aware individuals that
are closer to their jump are about
25 to 30,000 cycles a second.
Russ: hmm, and when you get to the
higher dimensions for example Omal,
his chakras would spin at probably
what? 30, 35,000?
Karra: probably, I’m guesstimating
at that point.