(Omal explores the
relationship between the gods of old
and devas where he confirms they have
been perceived as gods in ancient
times. He reminds us devas are one of
the seven races that colonized Earth
from Sirius when they settled on
Atlantis. He finally explains how
devas are created and how they can
manipulate the weather to benefit
those who are holding a rain dance in
their honor.)
Russ: on
the story of devas okay?
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: I'm doing some research into
some of the various entities who
have existed throughout our lives
as myths and storytelling’s of the
gods and goddesses and various
deities and the different sects
and religions.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: and obviously through each
basic civilization or community
you find similarities between all
of them….
Omal: yes.
Russ: as they go along. But is
this merely because of the fact
that they represent a common theme
or the fact that the devas take on
the characteristics of each of the
various places that they visit and
pass those on?
Omal: it is more along the lines
of the devas using existing
stories, myths and legends to
achieve what they want.
Russ: hmmm.
Omal: if you look at some of your
stories, there are talks of
appeasing the gods.
Russ: uh-huh.
Omal: so the devas behave in a
particular way to get what they
want whether it is an area that
nobody goes into that is their
domain. For example the top of
Mount Olympus, an area where they
can live in peace and harmony and
away from outside influences. Or
if it is being brought gifts and
having things planted and grown to
appease them. Or a building built
so they may dwell for a time in
that place in a happy, relaxed
state.
Russ: hmm, now the Indian or Hindu
religion.....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: has probably some of the
most colorful deities or devas on
the planet as far as their breadth
of fullness that had been
developed among them and from that
I’m reminded of the ancient
stories of UFOs and aliens
encounters in India way back
before written history ever began.
I’m wondering how close these two
are related?
Omal: yes they are quite related.
You have to remember that the
devas were one of the seven races.
(the races who came during the
colonization of Atlantis from
Sirius)
Russ: correct.
Omal: and the interreaction or
interaction between the devas and
the people of that area is
something that has been going on
for a long, long time.
Russ: now are the devas of India
basically confined to that area
or…..
Omal: no.
Russ: or they're worldwide?
Omal: they’re worldwide. Some may
inhabit an area for a thousand
years or two thousand years
because they are comfortable
there. Others may wander around
from place to place and cannot be
held in one place for any length
of time. Others may go as the wind
blows them.
Russ: all right well how would
you……I mean excuse me, how would
we……..
Omal: thank you.
Russ: my pleasure.....go about
determining which devas happen to
be hanging around in our area?
Indian devas or Greek or Nordic
let's say for example?
Omal: it depends on the
individual. Some people can call
devas, others feel their presence.
It is…..one deva can have many
aspects. There is a group of devas
that for example are descended
from one deva from the bacterial
process in the way that devas
spread and continue, the fact that
they split in half.
Russ: correct.
Omal: so that a deva may have many
parts to it and be many different
individuals but it remembers that
it was one once.
Russ: hmmm okay, this reminds me
of a time where I ran a ceremony
solo in which I was summoning a
particular beneficial entity and a
big noise banged on my window all
of a sudden with nothing outside
to show any physical presence.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: scared the living
%^$&y*out of me. But I mean
this is something that we talked
about last week, devas taking on a
more physical form, would this be
a sample of that?
Omal: yes.
Russ: ahhh.
Omal: you have to remember that
they inhabit an area between your
world and another space and they
will switch between them from time
to time. At certain times they are
more powerful and more physical
than at other times. It is not the
same for each deva.
Russ: hmmm.
Omal: it is like a wave, sometimes
they are very strong and present
and other times they are very weak
and hard to perceive.
Russ: this is the reason for
ceremonies being held at a
particular times of the moon or
seasons.
Omal: for some yes, for others it
does not matter.
Russ: ahh.
Omal: but for the people that
worship the devas….
Russ: uh-huh.
Omal: it is handy to have a time
that the devas will be remembered
and the devas become aware of that
time and will act upon that time.
Russ: okay. An example that’s it’s
reminded me of Mark working with
Diana and Herne…
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: okay so that we know that
devas of that particular ilk
happen to be in this particular
area. Now for other devas, you
would be merely calling upon
entities that you feel close to
and their ability to respond to
that would demonstrate the fact
that they are in this area
correct?
Omal: correct but let us look at
the devas that Mark works with.
Russ: okay.
Omal: what type of devas are they?
Russ: hunter and earth devas.
Omal: correct. What was in this
area before your species, your
race came?
John: Native Americans.
Omal: that did what?
Russ: hunted and dealt a lot with
the earth.
Omal: correct. So it would be
logical that they would present in
the area. It is possible that they
are of that family as it were,
that line and kind of deva. Devas
that are associated with the earth
and hunting. Quite logical if you
think about it so it would be
logical that an area where there
was hunting and worshiping of the
earth, that there would be devas
in that area of that kind.
Russ: so what about in like big
cities, what kind of devas would
you expect there? Probably none.
Omal: yes and no, it depends on
the environments created.
Russ: hmm.
Omal: more playful and mischievous
devas I should imagine.
Russ: indeed. So I'm trying to
remember my history of
mythological origins and trying to
decide which other devas of that
same brand are in other cultures.
For example Nordic, I can’t
remember any hunting deities in
the Nordic culture.
Omal: what about Thor, the God of
thunder, he enjoyed hunting.
Russ: oh did he? See this is why
I’m asking because I’m not really
familiar up on Thor. Hmm and on
the female side of that?
Omal: Frika, Fria, Fria was more
of the ground, the trees.
Russ: that’s true.
Omal: Fria was the mother goddess
of the earth.
Russ: well with as much Wagner
gets played around here I suppose
they might be hanging around.
Omal: it would not surprise me. In
fact Tia has pointed out a time
where Mark was being very foolish
wearing a cloak and shoving his
sword into the air in a
thunderstorm and shouting, “go
ahead, do your worst.”
(Russ and John start laughing)
Russ: good call, all right.....
John: lightning rod in hand.
Russ "I tempt thee."
Omal: well what does that tell
you?
Russ: that there is a strong
influence in that area for them
and him.
Omal: uh-huh.
John: and what that tells me is
Mark’s got brain damage.
Omal: actually Mark was being very
smart and clever. Here is a piece
of information that you may not be
aware of, water and electricity do
not mix correct?
Russ: I disagree, they go quite
nicely actually.
John: yeah, yeah, water's a good
conductor.
Omal: yes, they do conduct but
they do not mix. In a
thunderstorm, you will have
lightning and rain correct?
Russ: right.
John: uh-huh.
Omal: lightning takes place around
the edges of the storm correct?
Russ: uh-huh.
Omal: when it is raining you are
more deeply into the storm
correct?
Russ: yeah.
Omal: so, with Mark thrusting his
sword into a downpour of rain
whilst there is thunder and
lightning going around tells you
what?
Russ: he’s fairly safe.
Omal: correct and it would not
surprise me if Mark knew exactly
what he was doing.
Russ: well I can still remember
incidences on golf courses in the
middle of a rainstorm where people
huddle under trees and they just
got nailed by lightning hard.
Omal: yes, well they would be at
the edges of the storm.
Russ: ahh.
Omal: for example, there is a
golfer that got struck by
lightning I believe his name is
Seve Ballesteros?
Russ: did he get hit by lightning?
Oh I guess he did, yeah.
Omal: yeah and he said that he saw
the storm clouds coming, he heard
the clap of thunder and that is
all he remembers.
Russ: hmmm.
Omal: it had not started raining
at that point. Most golfers stop
playing and head for cover when
there is thunder and lightning
around so that they do not get wet
or struck by lightning.
Russ: right, Hollywood much to the
difference of that.
John: well I don’t know if I agree
with that, I mean I’ve been in
torrential downpours where it’s
pouring rain and there is very big
bolts of lightning right in the
middle of it. It’s common in
Arizona.
Omal: I did not say that it does
not happen….
John: okay.
Omal: what I said was that often
the lightning is around the edges
of the storm. Occasionally you
will get static charges that build
up within the center of the storm.
Now the clouds are all connected
together and often it will be fed
to the edges of the storm away
from the water. Occasionally you
will get lightning but for every
hundred thunderstorms on your
planet you will get one where
lightning is unusual. But the vast
majority of lightning strikes are
around the edges of storms or gaps
in the clouds.
Russ: yeah you might of been
caught in that gap there.
John: yeah, I don’t know what it
was.
Omal: so the next time that you
have a thunderstorm, I believe
your season is over…
Russ: yeah.
Omal: look out and watch the
thunderstorm and you will see that
the lightning does not actually
happen in the center of the storm,
it is more on the edges of the
storm. This happens because as the
rain is coming down, it's carrying
the charges out of the clouds so
that it cannot build up in the
center…
Russ: hmmm.
Omal: where the downpour is. More
to the outsides and gaps where
there is not so much rain it can
build up and therefore it has to
be discharged.
Russ: interesting.
Omal: often lightning will jump
from one cloud to another, that is
because the positive and negative
charges are creating the activity.
Russ: hmm, okay.
Omal: now dealing with the devas,
sometimes the devas feed off of
this energy to increase their
mysterious nature. In your popular
culture it is common to watch a
thing on people of other religions
celebrating their masses and there
is thunderstorms and wind and rain
and lightning, this is based
partly in truth. The fact that
devas will do this for their
entertainment. Your Native
Americans have their rain dance,
it is a mutually beneficial setup
for the devas and the natives of
this continent.
Russ: yeah I’m trying to remember
the deva that is worshiped by the
Native Americans concerning
thunder and rain or at least
thunder. There is one, I can’t
remember its name.
John: it's different....
Russ: they see it is a God, just
like the Nordic folk did.
Omal: uh-huh, it is the devas
interacting in a particular way.
Russ: oh okay, affecting physical
universe.
Omal: correct, it is manipulation
of molecules of water and energy
in a particular way that benefits
the people. They are happy so the
devas return the compliment for
leaving an area alone or improving
an area or whatever, they're given
the gift that they most desire by
using manipulation. It may not be
one deva, frequently it is more
than one deva. Some devas will
work with an individual, some
devas will work with a group of
individuals, some groups of devas
will work with groups of
individuals or individuals. It
depends on what the devas desire
and what the people desire and how
that beneficial arrangement can be
achieved.
Russ: hmm, now here’s the $64
question, is there an Earth deva?
Omal: the deity that was mentioned
was Frika.
Russ: oh.
Omal: the goddess of the earth and
the mother goddess in reference to
Wagner.
Russ: I see, it wasn’t exactly
what I was thinking of as far as a
earth deva goes but that’s okay.
Omal: that is an Earth deva.
Russ: oh.
Omal: Gaia is another name.
John: two different names for the
same deva?
Omal: not necessarily the same
deva but the same family of devas.
John: okay.
Russ: oh, that’s why, then it's
just a mental......
Omal: if I had said Gaia, you
would have understood. As I said
Frika, you did not.
Russ: right.
Omal: but it is the same deva or
the same group of devas. On that
note, live long, prosper and I’ll
be back.
John: later dude.
Russ: good night.
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