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                 (Omal explores the
                                  relationship between the gods of old
                                  and devas where he confirms they have
                                  been perceived as gods in ancient
                                  times. He reminds us devas are one of
                                  the seven races that colonized Earth
                                  from Sirius when they settled on
                                  Atlantis. He finally explains how
                                  devas are created and how they can
                                  manipulate the weather to benefit
                                  those who are holding a rain dance in
                                  their honor.)
 
 
 Russ: on
                                      the story of devas okay?
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: I'm doing some research into
                                      some of the various entities who
                                      have existed throughout our lives
                                      as myths and storytelling’s of the
                                      gods and goddesses and various
                                      deities and the different sects
                                      and religions.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: and obviously through each
                                      basic civilization or community
                                      you find similarities between all
                                      of them….
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 Russ: as they go along. But is
                                      this merely because of the fact
                                      that they represent a common theme
                                      or the fact that the devas take on
                                      the characteristics of each of the
                                      various places that they visit and
                                      pass those on?
 
 Omal: it is more along the lines
                                      of the devas using existing
                                      stories, myths and legends to
                                      achieve what they want.
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Omal: if you look at some of your
                                      stories, there are talks of
                                      appeasing the gods.
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: so the devas behave in a
                                      particular way to get what they
                                      want whether it is an area that
                                      nobody goes into that is their
                                      domain. For example the top of
                                      Mount Olympus, an area where they
                                      can live in peace and harmony and
                                      away from outside influences. Or
                                      if it is being brought gifts and
                                      having things planted and grown to
                                      appease them. Or a building built
                                      so they may dwell for a time in
                                      that place in a happy, relaxed
                                      state.
 
 Russ: hmm, now the Indian or Hindu
                                      religion.....
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: has probably some of the
                                      most colorful deities or devas on
                                      the planet as far as their breadth
                                      of fullness that had been
                                      developed among them and from that
                                      I’m reminded of the ancient
                                      stories of UFOs and aliens
                                      encounters in India way back
                                      before written history ever began.
                                      I’m wondering how close these two
                                      are related?
 
 Omal: yes they are quite related.
                                      You have to remember that the
                                      devas were one of the seven races.
 
 (the races who came during the
                                      colonization of Atlantis from
                                      Sirius)
 
 Russ: correct.
 
 Omal: and the interreaction or
                                      interaction between the devas and
                                      the people of that area is
                                      something that has been going on
                                      for a long, long time.
 
 Russ: now are the devas of India
                                      basically confined to that area
                                      or…..
 
 Omal: no.
 
 Russ: or they're worldwide?
 
 Omal: they’re worldwide. Some may
                                      inhabit an area for a thousand
                                      years or two thousand years
                                      because they are comfortable
                                      there. Others may wander around
                                      from place to place and cannot be
                                      held in one place for any length
                                      of time. Others may go as the wind
                                      blows them.
 
 Russ: all right well how would
                                      you……I mean excuse me, how would
                                      we……..
 
 Omal: thank you.
 
 Russ: my pleasure.....go about
                                      determining which devas happen to
                                      be hanging around in our area?
                                      Indian devas or Greek or Nordic
                                      let's say for example?
 
 Omal: it depends on the
                                      individual. Some people can call
                                      devas, others feel their presence.
                                      It is…..one deva can have many
                                      aspects. There is a group of devas
                                      that for example are descended
                                      from one deva from the bacterial
                                      process in the way that devas
                                      spread and continue, the fact that
                                      they split in half.
 
 Russ: correct.
 
 Omal: so that a deva may have many
                                      parts to it and be many different
                                      individuals but it remembers that
                                      it was one once.
 
 Russ: hmmm okay, this reminds me
                                      of a time where I ran a ceremony
                                      solo in which I was summoning a
                                      particular beneficial entity and a
                                      big noise banged on my window all
                                      of a sudden with nothing outside
                                      to show any physical presence.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: scared the living
                                      %^$&y*out of me. But I mean
                                      this is something that we talked
                                      about last week, devas taking on a
                                      more physical form, would this be
                                      a sample of that?
 
 Omal: yes.
 
 Russ: ahhh.
 
 Omal: you have to remember that
                                      they inhabit an area between your
                                      world and another space and they
                                      will switch between them from time
                                      to time. At certain times they are
                                      more powerful and more physical
                                      than at other times. It is not the
                                      same for each deva.
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Omal: it is like a wave, sometimes
                                      they are very strong and present
                                      and other times they are very weak
                                      and hard to perceive.
 
 Russ: this is the reason for
                                      ceremonies being held at a
                                      particular times of the moon or
                                      seasons.
 
 Omal: for some yes, for others it
                                      does not matter.
 
 Russ: ahh.
 
 Omal: but for the people that
                                      worship the devas….
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: it is handy to have a time
                                      that the devas will be remembered
                                      and the devas become aware of that
                                      time and will act upon that time.
 
 Russ: okay. An example that’s it’s
                                      reminded me of Mark working with
                                      Diana and Herne…
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 Russ: okay so that we know that
                                      devas of that particular ilk
                                      happen to be in this particular
                                      area. Now for other devas, you
                                      would be merely calling upon
                                      entities that you feel close to
                                      and their ability to respond to
                                      that would demonstrate the fact
                                      that they are in this area
                                      correct?
 
 Omal: correct but let us look at
                                      the devas that Mark works with.
 
 Russ: okay.
 
 Omal: what type of devas are they?
 
 Russ: hunter and earth devas.
 
 Omal: correct. What was in this
                                      area before your species, your
                                      race came?
 
 John: Native Americans.
 
 Omal: that did what?
 
 Russ: hunted and dealt a lot with
                                      the earth.
 
 Omal: correct. So it would be
                                      logical that they would present in
                                      the area. It is possible that they
                                      are of that family as it were,
                                      that line and kind of deva. Devas
                                      that are associated with the earth
                                      and hunting. Quite logical if you
                                      think about it so it would be
                                      logical that an area where there
                                      was hunting and worshiping of the
                                      earth, that there would be devas
                                      in that area of that kind.
 
 Russ: so what about in like big
                                      cities, what kind of devas would
                                      you expect there? Probably none.
 
 Omal: yes and no, it depends on
                                      the environments created.
 
 Russ: hmm.
 
 Omal: more playful and mischievous
                                      devas I should imagine.
 
 Russ: indeed. So I'm trying to
                                      remember my history of
                                      mythological origins and trying to
                                      decide which other devas of that
                                      same brand are in other cultures.
                                      For example Nordic, I can’t
                                      remember any hunting deities in
                                      the Nordic culture.
 
 Omal: what about Thor, the God of
                                      thunder, he enjoyed hunting.
 
 Russ: oh did he? See this is why
                                      I’m asking because I’m not really
                                      familiar up on Thor. Hmm and on
                                      the female side of that?
 
 Omal: Frika, Fria, Fria was more
                                      of the ground, the trees.
 
 Russ: that’s true.
 
 Omal: Fria was the mother goddess
                                      of the earth.
 
 Russ: well with as much Wagner
                                      gets played around here I suppose
                                      they might be hanging around.
 
 Omal: it would not surprise me. In
                                      fact Tia has pointed out a time
                                      where Mark was being very foolish
                                      wearing a cloak and shoving his
                                      sword into the air in a
                                      thunderstorm and shouting, “go
                                      ahead, do your worst.”
 
 (Russ and John start laughing)
 
 Russ: good call, all right.....
 
 John: lightning rod in hand.
 
 Russ "I tempt thee."
 
 Omal: well what does that tell
                                      you?
 
 Russ: that there is a strong
                                      influence in that area for them
                                      and him.
 
 Omal: uh-huh.
 
 John: and what that tells me is
                                      Mark’s got brain damage.
 
 Omal: actually Mark was being very
                                      smart and clever. Here is a piece
                                      of information that you may not be
                                      aware of, water and electricity do
                                      not mix correct?
 
 Russ: I disagree, they go quite
                                      nicely actually.
 
 John: yeah, yeah, water's a good
                                      conductor.
 
 Omal: yes, they do conduct but
                                      they do not mix. In a
                                      thunderstorm, you will have
                                      lightning and rain correct?
 
 Russ: right.
 
 John: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: lightning takes place around
                                      the edges of the storm correct?
 
 Russ: uh-huh.
 
 Omal: when it is raining you are
                                      more deeply into the storm
                                      correct?
 
 Russ: yeah.
 
 Omal: so, with Mark thrusting his
                                      sword into a downpour of rain
                                      whilst there is thunder and
                                      lightning going around tells you
                                      what?
 
 Russ: he’s fairly safe.
 
 Omal: correct and it would not
                                      surprise me if Mark knew exactly
                                      what he was doing.
 
 Russ: well I can still remember
                                      incidences on golf courses in the
                                      middle of a rainstorm where people
                                      huddle under trees and they just
                                      got nailed by lightning hard.
 
 Omal: yes, well they would be at
                                      the edges of the storm.
 
 Russ: ahh.
 
 Omal: for example, there is a
                                      golfer that got struck by
                                      lightning I believe his name is
                                      Seve Ballesteros?
 
 Russ: did he get hit by lightning?
                                      Oh I guess he did, yeah.
 
 Omal: yeah and he said that he saw
                                      the storm clouds coming, he heard
                                      the clap of thunder and that is
                                      all he remembers.
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Omal: it had not started raining
                                      at that point. Most golfers stop
                                      playing and head for cover when
                                      there is thunder and lightning
                                      around so that they do not get wet
                                      or struck by lightning.
 
 Russ: right, Hollywood much to the
                                      difference of that.
 
 John: well I don’t know if I agree
                                      with that, I mean I’ve been in
                                      torrential downpours where it’s
                                      pouring rain and there is very big
                                      bolts of lightning right in the
                                      middle of it. It’s common in
                                      Arizona.
 
 Omal: I did not say that it does
                                      not happen….
 
 John: okay.
 
 Omal: what I said was that often
                                      the lightning is around the edges
                                      of the storm. Occasionally you
                                      will get static charges that build
                                      up within the center of the storm.
                                      Now the clouds are all connected
                                      together and often it will be fed
                                      to the edges of the storm away
                                      from the water. Occasionally you
                                      will get lightning but for every
                                      hundred thunderstorms on your
                                      planet you will get one where
                                      lightning is unusual. But the vast
                                      majority of lightning strikes are
                                      around the edges of storms or gaps
                                      in the clouds.
 
 Russ: yeah you might of been
                                      caught in that gap there.
 
 John: yeah, I don’t know what it
                                      was.
 
 Omal: so the next time that you
                                      have a thunderstorm, I believe
                                      your season is over…
 
 Russ: yeah.
 
 Omal: look out and watch the
                                      thunderstorm and you will see that
                                      the lightning does not actually
                                      happen in the center of the storm,
                                      it is more on the edges of the
                                      storm. This happens because as the
                                      rain is coming down, it's carrying
                                      the charges out of the clouds so
                                      that it cannot build up in the
                                      center…
 
 Russ: hmmm.
 
 Omal: where the downpour is. More
                                      to the outsides and gaps where
                                      there is not so much rain it can
                                      build up and therefore it has to
                                      be discharged.
 
 Russ: interesting.
 
 Omal: often lightning will jump
                                      from one cloud to another, that is
                                      because the positive and negative
                                      charges are creating the activity.
 
 Russ: hmm, okay.
 
 Omal: now dealing with the devas,
                                      sometimes the devas feed off of
                                      this energy to increase their
                                      mysterious nature. In your popular
                                      culture it is common to watch a
                                      thing on people of other religions
                                      celebrating their masses and there
                                      is thunderstorms and wind and rain
                                      and lightning, this is based
                                      partly in truth. The fact that
                                      devas will do this for their
                                      entertainment. Your Native
                                      Americans have their rain dance,
                                      it is a mutually beneficial setup
                                      for the devas and the natives of
                                      this continent.
 
 Russ: yeah I’m trying to remember
                                      the deva that is worshiped by the
                                      Native Americans concerning
                                      thunder and rain or at least
                                      thunder. There is one, I can’t
                                      remember its name.
 
 John: it's different....
 
 Russ: they see it is a God, just
                                      like the Nordic folk did.
 
 Omal: uh-huh, it is the devas
                                      interacting in a particular way.
 
 Russ: oh okay, affecting physical
                                      universe.
 
 Omal: correct, it is manipulation
                                      of molecules of water and energy
                                      in a particular way that benefits
                                      the people. They are happy so the
                                      devas return the compliment for
                                      leaving an area alone or improving
                                      an area or whatever, they're given
                                      the gift that they most desire by
                                      using manipulation. It may not be
                                      one deva, frequently it is more
                                      than one deva. Some devas will
                                      work with an individual, some
                                      devas will work with a group of
                                      individuals, some groups of devas
                                      will work with groups of
                                      individuals or individuals. It
                                      depends on what the devas desire
                                      and what the people desire and how
                                      that beneficial arrangement can be
                                      achieved.
 
 Russ: hmm, now here’s the $64
                                      question, is there an Earth deva?
 
 Omal: the deity that was mentioned
                                      was Frika.
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 Omal: the goddess of the earth and
                                      the mother goddess in reference to
                                      Wagner.
 
 Russ: I see, it wasn’t exactly
                                      what I was thinking of as far as a
                                      earth deva goes but that’s okay.
 
 Omal: that is an Earth deva.
 
 Russ: oh.
 
 Omal: Gaia is another name.
 
 John: two different names for the
                                      same deva?
 
 Omal: not necessarily the same
                                      deva but the same family of devas.
 
 John: okay.
 
 Russ: oh, that’s why, then it's
                                      just a mental......
 
 Omal: if I had said Gaia, you
                                      would have understood. As I said
                                      Frika, you did not.
 
 Russ: right.
 
 Omal: but it is the same deva or
                                      the same group of devas. On that
                                      note, live long, prosper and I’ll
                                      be back.
 
 John: later dude.
 
 Russ: good night.
 
 
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