(Kiri follows up Karra’s discussion on agreements made during the waiting period between people by giving us the way it is understood on the sixth dimension. It is seen as certain events have to happen until reaching the final lesson.) 

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Russ: the Sirian religious expert.

Kiri: oh yes, me? Cool.

Russ: well you were mentioned.

Kiri: oh I was?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: do I get a OBE?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: out of body's efforts. Okay, what do you want to know?

Russ: okay.

Karen: who's first?

Russ: concerning working with decisions that are made due to agreements that are made during the waiting period, are those controlled by the superego who knows the agreements that were made and influence the decisions that are then come about?

Kiri: partly yes. There are other factors that come into play such as, as you stated when you were asking, guides, they also play a part. Also there is a little bit like the cascade effect. Remember we discussed the cascade effect a while ago?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: okay certain key events are programmed into the individual in the waiting period not only by the superego but by external outside influences. The reaction that is generated by this can be kind of automatic.

Russ: is this a sixth dimensional kind of understanding?

Kiri: pretty much so yeah that certain events are necessary to happen and the final lesson is forgiving what happened during those events and being able to maintain friendships and to be able to visit each other like in the past and behave as if those events did not happen.

Russ: so you have a personal example of that could share with us perhaps?

Kiri: not really, only a story that my grandmother told me about my mother a long time ago.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: but it's something I don't want to go into at this time.

Russ: it's bad?

Kiri: uh-huh because I'm still trying to come to terms with that but that in itself could be an example of forgiving.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: you know, the departure at a premature age of mother.

Russ: well with the reappearance of mother.

(Ed: Miranda, daughter of Alana and myself)

Kiri: that is something that will have to be addressed later when she gets her full memories.

Russ: correct, 21 years from now.

Kiri: no.

Russ: 20, yeah 19 years to go.

Kiri: uh-huh, 19 years to go and a long time.

John: how is mother doing?

Kiri: oh grandmother?

John: yeah.

Kiri: she's doing fine. She's well and happy. Sarah's still staying in her room and they spend a lot of time talking. Sarah's out of a lot of her pain but unfortunately she has what we call now accelerated decrepity.

Karen: I've got a question.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Karen: like I was mentioning on the astral traveling being taken involuntarily.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Karen: now are certain key aspects happening in my life to or where they are doing this?

Kiri: I think that would be something that you alone can decide and understand. I'm not able to say that yes you did, no you didn't. That takes somebody of much higher dimensional awareness than myself and unfortunately the person that is ideally suited to do that has left. Omal is still hovering around and keeping us in line or trying to anyway, actually he's helping put on a Band-Aid at the moment. But.......

Russ: hmm so, going back over past life experiences.......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: one can see something of the relationship between the waiting period agreements and the decisions made later.

Kiri: uh-huh, yes there are. They become self-evident after-the-fact. The fact that Ashtar laid what was going on very much on the ground and said okay, this is how it is and he hinted at the necessary reaffirming of friendship.

Russ: now something a little off the line from this but a question on it, how do tarot cards figure into the equation here?

Kiri: into predicting the future?

Russ: yeah I mean is there something with the guides, the  superego, the agreements, the decisions and all that?

Kiri: it is a combination but tarot cards are also the tapping in of the reader into the matrix of the subconscious mind. The mind that you can't read. Getting back to Sarah and her thing, she's picked out the lining for her return box and also has it pretty much finished. Got some interesting carvings from the pictures I've seen on the outside.

Russ: hmmm. So she'll going to be going on to a sixth dimensional existence or a third dimensional do you think? She spent a lot of time in sixth dimension though....

Kiri: yes, maybe sixth dimensional, I hope so.

Russ: I do too.

Kiri: uh-huh. After what she's been through, she could probably...

Russ: she earned it.

Kiri: earned it......

Russ: but only she can make the decision.

Kiri: that's correct. Only she knows if it's right for her or not. Which I've never seen her since we've had her up on the base and then when we took her to Sirius, I've never seen her so happy. But she has told me that she knows when her time is and she's told me that she is going to let me know like a week in advance so I can go and be with her.

Russ: good.

Kiri: uh-huh. At the moment she looks like she's about 45 but she'll always be a young 20-year-old to me.