(Tia relates what her home planet of Durondedunn is like along some of the details of her rescue that brought her to be with us channeling on Hades Base. We get more details as well about the other Durondedunns on the base who were from a time 200 years in Durondedunn’s past.) 

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Russ: so what’s up baby? Who is this girl that’s got this 21'th birthday coming up?

Tia: oh Rishee?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: well within the next 10 days of her birthday, all her Akashic records will be accessible to her. 

(she would have been turning 21)

Russ: now is that something that’s just keyed into her genetic memory or is that something that’s given to her externally by somebody else?

Tia: I’m not quite sure……..

Russ: like we said we heard Omal would be commencing her or something, giving her a commencement? 

Tia: it’s something that I’m not that familiar with not being from the Sirian race but being from a lowly third dimensional race that will one day be pulled by its bootstraps screaming and struggling and giving birth to a new world of sixth dimensional wonderment.

Russ: so being as that you're sixth dimensional, you don’t have all the perks that come with sixth dimension?

Tia: no.

Russ: what a shame.

Tia: pity isn’t it?

Russ: what’s the point?

Tia: what’s the point? I don’t know what the point is apart from I’m having an absolute blast.

(Russ starts laughing)

Russ: I’d say, “I’d want my money back. I paid for this trip”

Tia: I paid with it with my life.

Russ: yeah, right well, you wouldn’t want your life back.

Tia: no not really, I’m happy where I am.

Russ: I know you get homesick every once in a while but you’ve got a new home. It’s like…….

Tia: yeah, but I would like to be able to under the mandarin trees and the I don’t know what you’d call them, they're kind of a fluffy, leafed-type type tree.

Russ: you can do that.

Tia: oh but it’s not quite the same you know?

Russ: in your astral body.

Two: oh yeah but it’s not the same as being able to reach down and go, “ow, that thorn just stabbed me in the foot.”

Russ: hmm.

Tia: the holo’s up here tend to, if there’s a thorn in the way, it kind of scoots across the floor or you step on it and you don’t feel it. 

(the hologram suites as could be compared to the holo decks of Star Trek)

Russ: well I mean you could go to the planet couldn’t you?

Tia: yeah.

Russ: you have done.

Tia: oh in the astral form.

Russ: in the astral form.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: right.

Tia: but it’s still not quite the same.

Russ: well, I mean……yeah that’s true.

Tia: I mean I’d like to be able to walk under a moonlit night and watch the bawa trees and…

Russ: bawa?

Tia: bawa.

Russ: so what extraterrestrial group is helping them go up to sixth dimension, any?

Tia: yeah probably but I really don’t know.

Russ: it’s not Ashtar Command….

Tia: no.

Russ: it’s in a different sector.

Tia: yeah, it’s way in a different sector.

Russ: right.

Tia: it’s like two sectors over actually.

Russ: so it would be like the Galactic Federation kind of deal.

Tia: yeah probably one of the White Brotherhoods or something.

Russ: right.

Tia: or probably for my world, a White Sisterhood.

Russ: hmm, that’s true. So do they channel on Durondedunn?

Tia: I would assume so but I don’t know.

Russ: you never heard of such a thing?

Tia: no.

Russ: now you being in the priestess class……

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: right? How do they talk to God or gods or whatever, goddesses?

Tia: by prayer and emotion and feeling.

Russ: but the gods or goddesses or whatever never talk back.

Tia: there are recordings of the great goddess saying, “thy are the children.” 

Russ: right, now where does this come from? I mean, this sounds like channeling to me. It’s where we get all our stuff from, channeling.

Tia: yeah, I know what you’re saying and probably yes it is channeling more than likely, we’ve had this philosophical, theological debate before……big words tonight.

Russ: yes.

Tia: hey, good name for the tape, big word tape.

Russ: big word tape.

Tia: yeah, we’ve had these philosophical debates before in the past along a theological level and…..

Russ: well a lot of it was dealing with our planet.

Tia: yes and it’s probably, possibly the same on many, many worlds. I’m only conjecturing here and amplifying on my thoughts of the possibility.

Russ: so you’ve had these thoughts before?

Tia: yes.

Russ: yes.

Tia: uh-huh but the word channeling, there is no word in our dictionary for channeling.

Russ: right.

Tia: a channel is an unknown thing or the word.

Russ: so spiritually you’re kind of behind us?

Tia: no.

Russ: okay.

Tia: you’ve got to think differently.

Russ: well I’m trying to adjust my thought process here.

Tia: that was one of the hardest things for me was adjusting my thought patterns to meet the new environment.

Russ: well how is the new Durondedunn’s doing with it? 

(the Durondedunn's found in stasis from an earlier period than Tia's and transferred to the base)

Tia: they’re having worse problems than I did.

Russ: oh are they?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well I haven’t heard about them in months now, what’s going on with them?

Tia: they’re attending classes.

Russ: she’s pregnant right?

Tia: no, she’s had her litter.

Russ: and?

Tia: she had four male cubs.

Russ: four male cubs?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: ahhh.

Tia: yeah and my cubs think they’re absolutely hilarious.

Russ: why?

Tia: because only one of them has developed abilities.

Russ: oh really?

Tia: yeah.

Russ: and the other three haven’t?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: oh, deadheads huh?

Tia: no, just different ways of thinking.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: and they’re very much different from the Cubs. They’re not as controlled, even from an early age, they’re very into everything.

Russ: your Cubs are very mentally advanced though too.

Tia: yeah well not by the norm up here........not from the norm up here but from my race yes.

Russ: well you had Mark as a father though too which had a lot to do with it.

Tia: yeah, uh-huh but also the fact remains that they were……that the Cubs, Teela’s Cubs are very third dimensional in their behavior, their thought patterns and their growth patterns. Mentally they're not so advanced.

Russ: but they’re sixth dimensional also?

Tia: yes and no, yes and no. Their behaviors are very third dimensional and their mental developments are very third dimensional.

Russ: yeah, that stands to reason. 

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean both parents were third dimensional.

Tia: yeah as is in the case of my Cubs.

Russ: correct.

Tia: but they’re very…..the difference is very prominent when you see them playing. They play like children did on my planet.

Russ: rough-and-tumble?

Tia: yeah, rough-and-tumble and there’s a lot of fighting and claws come out. Being males, they’re not as aggressive as the Cubs, as my Cubs. They tend to be a little more docile but it's still, you get in the tumbling match with them and they’ll bite you, much as I used to bite my sisters.........

Russ: right.

Tia: and my older brothers and my younger brothers. We'd bring out our claws and latch on to each other and pull hair and bite and scratch and…

Russ: lucky the med center is nearby probably.

Tia: the other children tried to communicate with them but they tend to shut them out and hide within themselves when the other children try to talk to them.

Russ: well that’s typical, they feel left out….

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: that they’re strange. I would think that they'd get along real well with the Cubs, your Cubs.

Tia: when they play they do but when the Cubs start to ask them questions right? In either English or Sirian or Durondedunn or on the intimate mode right? The cubs don’t respond. They will respond in Durondedunn but they won’t speak in any other language and telepathically, they don’t even hear which is kind of sad. Maybe it will come in later on.

Russ: it’s possible, I mean the abilities are much easier to get up there.

Tia: oh yeah but I mean at the age that they are now of six months, they don’t………..you know?

Russ: yeah they’re still young.

Tia: yeah whereas my girls were, “will you shut up type thing, stop babbling.”

Russ: “will you knock it off.”

Tia: you want me to jump up and down on the bed and do what I did when I was pregnant?

Russ: so.....but Teela’s proud of her cubs.

Tia: oh yeah, she’s very proud of them, very protective over them as well.

Russ: but she feels a little bit weird about the situation she’s bringing them up in I’m sure.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: I mean this is an environment that is the last place she expected to be raising children in.

Tia: uh-huh well she told me that she never expected to have children.

Russ: oh really?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: oh.

Tia: but when the opportunity came to have her sterilization reversed, she was all for it, something new for her. The fact that compared to me they’re 200 years behind the evolution mentally and physically, really hurts them.

Russ: well, it'd just be the same as if Mark’s gone up there and he’s way behind but he’s catching up.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: it’s just a process of being there for a while and getting used to it.

Tia: yeah but you have to remember that intellectually wise they are much smarter than I am.

Russ: they are, because they're scientists.

Tia: that’s right but I'm much more aware of things. They came from a time where things were very third dimensional. Things like they were very concerned with economic growth, technological development…….

Russ: well I still have trouble understanding the fact that you come from a later age than they do.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but yet you got here first.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: that’s still throws me a little bit.

Tia: well the way that they’ve developed, the way that they are is very much scientific……..I mean they’re not in tune with their environment, they’re not spiritually……the wars are still a memory for them.

Russ: yeah that’s true, for you they're just a history lesson.

Tia: yeah, I mean their grandparents talked of the war.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: so they had first-hand knowledge.

Russ: now I’ve got a question I’ve been meaning to ask you......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: have you ever really pondered upon your arrival at Hades Base?

Tia: my arrival?

Russ: I mean your arrival being found by Ashtar Command alone…..

Tia: yeah.

Russ: and being placed at Hades Base?

Tia: well I did a full D jump to one of their perimeter bases.

Russ: right.

Tia: and somebody happened to pick up on the aura right? And the fact that it was very depressed and very close to death right? And they put it in an intensifying field right? And it was thought best to take me from where I was to a better, safer area where they had better equipment to deal with me.

Russ: why Hades Base?

Tia: it wasn’t Hades Base originally, I don’t really know the full story and they won’t tell me.

Russ: but how did you get chosen to be put at Hades Base? I mean, I’m just looking at it from the past through to now and looking at the whole way this has all worked out.

Tia: from what I’ve heard of some of the other bases, they’re much more rougher and readier and smaller.

Russ: well why weren’t you put at Sirius or Alpha Centauri?

Tia: I think that’s where they did a lot of the rejuvening and cloning and repairing and so on. My body was apparently in very bad condition.

Russ: on Sirius?

Tia: yeah. So I mean Sirius is the hotspot for technological advances and stuff.

Russ: all right now here’s the big question.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: did they have access to your past lives due to your body being there?

Tia: I think so probably yes but they didn’t put them into me.

Russ: no but they could read your past lives from your Akashic records.

Tia: probably yes, probably more than likely yes.

Russ: they have the technology I know.

Tia: oh yeah and that’s probably why I was……..

Russ: you got put at Hades Base.

Tia: is for the potential. I’ve only been out of (brrrrrr) cold storage for seven years.

Russ: right.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I know but the way everything has worked out…….

Tia: yeah.

Russ: I mean you could have been anywhere.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: right?

Tia: those first three years with the toughest years of my life.

Russ: yeah, had to be.

Tia: total isolated loner learning first of all English and then trying to learn Sirian and then being given a job in analyzing data which I didn't understand. And the fact that I was alone and my religious practices almost ostracized me. The fact that I killed one pet dog…….

Russ: (laughs) I’ve got to hear about this story.

Tia: okay you want to here about this story?

Russ: yeah I want to hear this story.

Tia: okay this was I’d been on the base like a month.

Russ: Hades Base?

Tia: uh-huh and it was the season of development on my planet where we go out on the hunt and the instinct was very strong in me and we look for animals to offer to the goddess.

Russ: okay.

Tia: and there was this dog wandering along right? And it was walking through a park and I happened to be up in a tree and I just jumped down, broke its neck in the traditional way. I took it back to my apartment, skinned it and roasted it and ate its strength.

Russ: oh no, and?

Tia: and it was a pet dog.

Russ: right?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and the owners?

Tia: the owners were quite upset.

Russ: I can imagine.

Tia: they understood……..

Russ: yeah.

Tia: but they were very upset. Fortunately they didn’t have any children.

Russ: right.

Tia: it did have puppies that had been weaned, it was like how would you describe it? It had been a line of pets that had been a long time in their family.

Russ: oh God.

Tia: yeah. So the fact that I didn’t destroy the line…….

Russ: so who sat down and had a little talk with you?

Tia: Omal.

Russ: Omal, yeah I can imagine. How’d that talk go?

Tia: he understood very well the religious ramifications and it was something they overlooked and he was very apologetic to me for not catering to my special needs.

Russ: right, they could’ve supplied you with a dog to come wandering under the tree or something maybe.

Tia: yeah but it was eating the strength of the dog.

Russ: right.

Tia: the fact that I used to have an apartment full of cats. You reckon you have a problem with cats.

Russ: you had a bunch huh?

Tia: I had a bunch, I think the record was like 30 at one point.

Russ: 30?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: what, all the neighborhood cats would all come over to Tia’s place?

Tia: yeah.

Russ: and Tia’s giving them great food and stuff?

Tia: no, because I would sit down and talk to them.

Russ: oh yeah.

Tia: nobody talked to them on the base in the same mental wavelength.

Russ: oh and you did?

Tia: yeah and I would sit down and they would tell me all the gossip and what was going on and it was sort of like I wish I could join in but being so short and different, I felt very out of place.

Russ: so the cats were your best friends?

Tia: uh-huh, I still have a few of them that gatecrash. In fact there is one that had her litter the other day.

Russ: did she?

Tia: uh-huh. I was sitting in my office minding my own business right? And there is a nudge at my foot and I look down and there she is right? And she’s got a kitten in her mouth. She dumps the kitten down, rubs up against my leg and the kitten was wet.

Russ: oh.

Tia: eyes closed, about yea big……

Russ: newborn.

Tia: and then she came back and then dumped another down at my feet and it took her about four hours and she had three kittens there……four kittens. Yeah four kittens.

Russ: one an hour?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: was she on the other side of the base or something?

Tia: I think so.

Russ: and?

Tia: and they now have a bed underneath my desk.

Russ: ahhhhh.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: that's cool.

Tia: so I bring them salmon every morning.

Russ: so she’s over there always watching her kittens and just talking to you.

Tia: yeah she disappears off and it’s her last litter.

Russ: oh it is?

Tia: yeah, she's I think about seven years old, she was young when I met her.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: yeah she was like Wicca. 

(one of our younger house cats)

Russ: right.

Tia: Wicca’s age and she’s had I think four litters so far.

Russ: wow.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so you’ve got a new little…..

Tia: brood under my desk.

Russ: office mates there.

Tia: yeah, I have to clean it out every morning, it absolutely reeks in the morning.

Russ: yeah, I can imagine.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: still they’re probably really happy to be there.

Tia: oh yeah.

Russ: is the milk she is giving them feeding them and everything?

Tia: oh yeah, she’s the one that eats all the salmon.

Russ: yeah that’s what I figured, they’re too young to eat salmon.

Tia: yeah, oh we’ll sit there and argue over a piece of raw salmon and she munches on it and I’ll eat a piece and then she’ll eat a piece and pass it backwards and forwards. I’ll give her some of the milk that I bring in and she’ll sit there and then she’ll curl up on my lap whilst I’m trying to type, it’s quite an inconvenience but it’s fun too.

Russ: yeah I can imagine. Well that’s a neat story Tia, I hadn’t heard that one before.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: killed a dog, oh man that’s too much.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and now that they understand these needs, Teela and her mate and you and everyone don’t have this problem anymore.

Tia: Teela’s not religious.

Russ: oh.

Tia: yeah, I’ve tried to explain to her about the religion and everything, she goes, “yes, I’ve heard about those outcasts.” Apparently 200 years ago, the goddess’ worshipers were an outcast class.

Russ: hmmm.

Tia: (speaks to herself) outcast class.

Russ: until the need for religion reared its ugly head and......

Tia: they unified.

Russ: yeah but…..

Tia: there still were a lot of factions and things.

Russ: oh there were when they were still…….?

Tia: yeah, a lot of factions but there was peace and there was a lot of mainly political struggles. I mean when they left…….

Russ: well actually the religion actually saved the planet right?

Tia: pretty much so yeah.

Russ: that’s what I thought because that unified them.......

Tia: uh-huh......

Russ: under one religion.

Tia: it gave us all a unified cause.

Russ: like for example, if we all had one religion, we'd be a much happier planet.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: but we don’t have that ability.

Tia: uh-huh but the thing was that the unifying factor of everybody being pulled together. I mean at one time about 220 years ago we were an outcast, all the people that believed in the goddess. They were like the New Age people down on you planet are, somebody to laugh at.

Russ: well who would’ve guessed. Well actually, they’re not laughed at so much, now we’re becoming more like you were as far as a unifying force.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: everyone now is starting……I mean everyone believes in UFOs practically.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: everyone’s starting to believe in past lives.

Tia: uh-huh but the thing is that there are still other religious sects right?

Russ: right.

Tia: and they are accepted and smiled upon, the difference of each other. But now it’s instead of the political struggles and everything, there are the religious sects and the debates. Now the debates themselves are quite entertaining and funny to watch because you'll get some people that will as Mark might say spout rhetoric.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: uh-huh and that’s all they’ll spout and they won’t think for themselves and then there’s those of us that worship the goddess and we'll just sit there and go............no freethinking.

Russ: right. Well yeah, I mean you’re going to get that in every civilization.

Tia: oh yeah.

Russ: more so on ours. People are not as psychically developed down here as you’ve probably got them up there right now.

Tia: well the ones with the psychic abilities are the ones that are persecuted. I had to be very, very quiet about the fact that I could astral travel.

Russ: well that’s probably changed now hasn’t it?

Tia: I don’t know.

Russ: some what, 10 years later?

Tia: I really don’t know. I mean the ones that were astral travelers that were full priestesses from what I’ve heard, these are only rumors and stories from when I was little girl where they were the higher ones right? And it was a revelation to them.

Russ: we’ll had you not had your accident…..

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: then because it was sort of secret for you to do this right?

Tia: yeah uh-huh and forbidden.

Russ: had this not been forbidden…..

Tia: yeah.

Russ: had this been more accepted as part of their thing, you might not have done the rather risky stuff you did.

Tia: that’s right.

Russ: and you might have never have left Durondedunn.

Tia: that’s correct. I get the feeling that most of the priestesses that have the astral travel gift have them from an early age and were smarter about letting them come out, that they decided that that’s what they wanted to be was a priestess, a virgin for their whole entire life and with me I wasn’t sure.

Russ: right.

Tia: and when you become a priestess you get initiated in all sorts of things and I have a sneaking suspicion that the ones that are pointed in that direction already have the astral travel ability and it’s not something that they developed as when they became priestesses, it’s something that they experimented with.

Russ: right.

Tia: like I did but I took it a step further or many steps further.

Russ: right well it could’ve gone either way.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I’m just glad it went the way it did.

Tia: yeah, I would have been an initiated priestess and totally virgin.

Russ: and that would be similar to our nuns down here.

Tia: yes.

Russ: and I’m sure there’s nuns who have a lot of psychic gifts.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: all that praying and celibacy, meditating and all that, I mean I’m sure they’ve had some dramatic experiences.

Tia: yes very religious experiences.

Russ: you don’t hear about.

Tia: no.

Russ: just like on your planet.

Tia: uh-huh and they’re probably very hidden and kept secret like on my planet.

Russ: so there are some correlations here.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: hmmm.

Tia: okay.

Russ: okay.