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(Omal talks about the engineering on the flying wing and how it and the space shuttle share a link in that both where in the planning stages of the Nazi scientists. He also confirms that a country tried to shoot down a UFO with a laser but that's not what actually happened.) 

Russ: okay, at present I am currently working on some past UFO discoveries leading to present day technological advances.

Omal: okay.

Russ: and what I'm looking at is something called the YB-49.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: developed by a gentleman named Northrup.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: back...and it lasted from 1948 to 1952.

Omal: would that be the flying wing?

Russ: that would be the first prototype of the flying wing

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and it is closely linked date-wise....(John walks in)......hey Johnny.

John: hey guys.

Russ: Omal's here.

John: yeah.

Russ: and geography wise to the recovery of the Roswell saucer.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I believe the Roswell saucer was recovered in '48?

Omal: correct.

Russ: and then all of a sudden you see this flying wing being attempted to be created.

Omal: actually the flying wing does go back a little bit earlier.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: it was a design that was designed towards the end of your second great planetary war. There is a very easy way to find out more about this. Mark has an assignment.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: watch Weekday Wings for Northrop's flying wing.

Russ: oh okay. That will give us some more information.

Omal: more than you wish for.

Russ: I'm sure. Well the original, the YB-49 turned out to be the B-47.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: the YB-49 was just a few prototypes that never really worked as where the B-47 flying wing, turned out two thousand of them. That generally in turn......because that was a radical departure from typical aircraft design at that point.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and that led to the B-2 and the B-2 became successful compared to the original flying wings due to the fact that all of a sudden the computer technology advanced to a level where it could be mounted into a plane.

Omal: correct and also the engine capacity. The original flying wing was designed for...

Russ: propellers.

Omal: correct, piston engines.

Russ: right.

Omal: they added in, big mistake, they added in turbo engines. When you mix turbos from a design that is for piston, you do not take into the fact that it is a different type of engine that has a different type of effect on the fuselage and the wing surface and the necessary lift generating factors. They then added in also jet engines so that you had a mishmash of technologies, a fuselage and body that was designed for piston with turbines and also jet engines. Does not work. If they had designed it originally for jet engines that were powerful enough, then they would not have had the problems that they had and they would have had a functional aircraft.

Russ: so essentially it was a design problem with the fact that the propellers turning causes the plane to want to twist.

Omal: no. No, not quite. Let me reexplain what I said. The technology for the original flying wing was designed for piston engines. When they put turbines on, it changes the flight characteristics of the wing. When you add jets into the equation that have a different turbulence factor, you again change the equation.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: so you take a design of an aircraft that is designed for one type of engine and you mount in a totally different type of engine so therefore the effect is very different.

Russ: I see. A computer game that came out a few years back called "Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe?"

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: showed a jet powered flying wing.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now was this something that was actually on the design table of the Luftwaffe?

Omal: correct.

Russ: ahh, and what happened as far as that? War came to an end too soon?

Omal: correct.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: also if you look at this latest reusable shuttle and also look at the "Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe".....

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: you will find it there. Slightly different but you will find it there. If you look at the European Space Agency's current reusable design that they're working on, guess what?

Russ: it looks the same. So this is basically close to a 50-year-old design.

Omal: try closer to 60.

Russ: okay, 60-year-old design being brought into a fact where now with all our technology and advancements, we're able to finally make it a reality.

Omal: despite all the corruption and twistedness of the uses of the technology, the Third Reich was quite advanced. They ranged from 10 to 50 years ahead of their time.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: or is it, little question here, is it the fact that everybody was 50 years behind them? Were they ahead or everybody else behind? It is not the same.

Russ: does this mean that possibly then they were visionaries?

Omal: I never said that.

Russ: no I know, we just were keeping ourselves from advancing at a pace that we should of been and they just went ahead and advanced at a pace much faster.

Omal: it is a matter of semantics......

Russ: right.

Omal: I am leaving it open for debate.

Russ: oh I see. Ashtar is on the base right now isn't he?

Omal: correct.

Russ: has he heard about our current....?

Omal: yes he has.

Russ: and how does he feel about it?

Omal: I have not discussed it with him yet.

Russ: okay.

Omal: he has been on and off the base for the past week.

Russ: oh okay. Well at some point in the future I would like to hopefully get him as a guest speaker we could add in.

Omal: I will see if I can arrange it but I must point out that Ashtar is a busy individual.

Russ: understandable. If nothing else, I can always take it from the archives.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I've got plenty of stuff we've already had from him.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay. Now then, a few UFO projects that I've been studying which takes us back to where we started from is Project Bluebird.

Omal: ah-hah, yes, I did receive a report from one of my data analysts.

Russ: Project Bluebird originally was designed to be able to not just reverse engineer any captured extraterrestrial design but to actually go ahead and fly those designs.

Omal: uh-huh. Okay I received an interesting report on my desk from an individual that went and saw a movie called "ID-4".

("Independence Day" with Will Smith)

Russ: oh, I haven't even seen that.

Omal: her report is that there are numerous scenes and references to an area which supposedly does not exist called Area 51.......

Russ: hmm.

Omal: where they go in and they come across a vessel that was found in 1948, they refurbish it and they use it to defeat the invaders.

Russ: ahhh. Okay so this ties very closely on my question at that point.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay why all of a sudden would a movie come out with this particular scenario built in? It seems very timely.

Omal: uh-huh. Might I make a suggestion?

Russ: sure.

Omal: it would be useful for both of you to go and see it.

Russ: I agree, I agree, how about we work on it for tomorrow? I can get us in. I'm going to have to pay for us to get in.

Omal: what is wrong with the 9 o'clock?

Russ: sold out, they're all sold out.

Omal: ahhh.

Russ: every day it's been showing it's been sold out.

Omal: what about viewing it from the projection room?

(due to my being a manger a theater of the same chain)

Russ: you don't get the same effect.

Omal: hmmm.

Russ: possibly I might be able to get a private showing arranged but that might take a little bit of work. One of the things about this is that okay we have a movie in which aliens invade Earth, we find Project Bluebird in fictional reality......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and it's probably one of the most popular movies to come out in a decade.

Omal: but sadly it predicts........portrays aliens in a negative light. Not all aliens are like that.

Russ: agreed. Well that's why we're starting this webpage so that we can make sure that at least the truth is known.

Omal: yes, you may want to highlight the fact that I said that not all aliens are like that. Certainly there are aliens out there but there are also aliens out there that die protecting you.

Russ: uh-huh. Hmm, which takes me to my next question, South Africa.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: 19........I don't have the date down here.......1989 if I remember correctly......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: in which a ship coming into South Africa....

Omal: is tracked and....

Russ: supposedly shot down by a experimental laser cannon from a Mirage jet fighter.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and what we've been able to determine through the help of Tia....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: is that there was actually a ship shot down by an unseen vessel above it.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and that the use of the laser cannon is possibly disinformation.

Omal: no it is what they believe actually happened, they believe it worked.

Russ: you mean they had a laser cannon?

Omal: it was a very weak laser cannon.....

Russ: oh.

Omal: by standards but very powerful by other standards. It fires a pulse of light energy at a designated target.

Russ: that's pretty far advanced then compared to what I've heard of before. The most we've heard of is that they are using lasers for targeting systems but not for anything destructive.

Omal: you're not listening hard enough.

Russ: obviously not.

Omal: they have lasers that are quite capable of cutting through an inch of solid steel.

Russ: I knew this but I mean still, we're talking about from a flying object at a long distance to make an accurate shot and actually bring something down.

Omal: that is why they believed that it worked. The fact is that they probably missed the target.

Russ: well all they saw, according to the report I saw was.....

Omal: was a flash of light come from it....

Russ: a flash of light coming from it and suddenly it started to waver. In fact no, it was a series of flashes of lights and it started to waver and then went down at 3,000 ft. per minute.

Omal: that is not particularly fast.

Russ: no and then impacted into the desert. Now from that point, they brought the ship to a secret Air Force base.

Omal: yes near Kimberly.

Russ: uh-huh, and the door started to open on the craft and then they used heavy lifting machinery to pry it open the rest of the way. Two aliens then got out, quite hostile and they were promptly arrested according to this report and then ship, crew and everything got shipped off to Wright-Patterson....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and that's the last we hear of it but apparently the aliens were alive.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: typical gray beings with the small statures, three clawed feet and hands or three fingered or three toed.

Omal: and the attitude.

Russ: and the attitude of they hate everyone. They clawed up some doctor pretty bad.

Omal: well how would you feel in that situation?

Russ: well I'd be pretty pissed.

Omal: so do not mistake them being upset for being hostile.

Russ: well that's just what the report said.

Omal: correct.

Russ: now what would aliens from another world taken prisoner have as a future to look forward to?

Omal: it is best not to discuss it. Even for any race, no matter how hostile, it is not a very good prospect.

Russ: I agree.

Omal: the only thing that they can wish for is either a quick, painless death or rescue. The others do not leave much in the way of hope.

Russ: well since they can't be beamed out, I don't see much in the way of hope for rescue but would you hypothesize then that the ship shooting them down....

Omal: I do not hypothesize, I only go on fact.

Russ: okay, do you think the facts support that the ship shooting them down knew that they would be surviving the crash and aim for a particular point on the craft that they would?

Omal: anything that I say would be conjecture, I cannot answer that question.

Russ: all right, fair enough. Johnny, you got anything, I'm taking up all the questions tonight?

John: well yeah I just kind of popped in. Just as far as, especially on the webpage as far as terminology, instead of using the word alien especially when we're referring to extraterrestrial....

Omal: yes I understand exactly what you're saying.

John: a lot more correct?

Omal: you are quite correct in what you're saying. Is a common terminology that is used by lots of individuals all over your planet. It is something that we grin and bear. How much we dislike it is irrelevant, it is what is easiest for them to understand sadly to say.

Russ: easiest to spell too.

John: but is it accurate to say that the term alien alienates your people to a certain degree?

Omal: it is more something that upsets Kiri more than it upsets me. I have been called many, many derogatory terms in my existence so, they are words.

Russ: now question, would it be better to say reserve extraterrestrials to folks like yourself who are kind and benevolent and alien to those folks like those Grays who are not?

Omal: why discriminate against one group for another group?

Russ: well it would differentiate.

Omal: hostile alien, non-hostile alien. Non-hostile extraterrestrial, hostile extraterrestrial, it is all the same.

Russ: ahh okay, just a thought.

Omal: it is what is easiest for the populist to understand.

Russ: okay.

Omal: I know this stems from a discussion on Native Americans and Indians.

John: yeah, you took my thoughts right out of my brain.

Russ: Johnny, protector of everyone.

John: well.

(John and I both start chuckling)

John: oh well.

Omal: it more comes from the term political correctness.

Russ: true. Okay, the last part I have on this is that in the same......well further on in the reports I saw was that later that same year, three crafts were captured in the Nevada desert. Supposedly by some high-powered radar that was being used that knocked out the control abilities.

Omal: I think that is an erroneous report.

Russ: it did seem like it, I can't see any radar would be powerful enough to knock out some craft of any kind.

Omal: not unless you get real, real, real close. You wish to know how close?

Russ: on top of the thing?

Omal: come here.

(everybody laughs)

John: you're talking really, really close.

Omal: correct. In other words, they would have to park on top of it and then no matter what would be knocked out. Even one of our aircraft, if it is high powered.

Russ: oh, okay.

Omal: a radar that is used for bouncing radar images off of the moon surfaces.

Russ: ahh, all right. So a radar imaging display almost?

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay.