(Karra explains how the growth cycles between both Earth and Sirius are similar in the fact that there will be growth spurts and periods where it slows down. A proportional amount of growth experienced needs an equal amount of rest afterwards.) 

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Russ: so let’s talk about cycles shall we?

Karra: okay.

Russ: all right now, do you go through the same cycles or….?

Karra: yes I do.

Russ: okay, and is this just a natural occurrence everyone has to like go at high-speed on one thing that has huge spiritual implications for them?

Karra: pretty much so yes but some people are outside that factor and they maintain that high energy all the time. Take Kiri for example, she remains incredibly focused quite a lot of the time, lucky girl. She doesn’t lose lack of interest very often in things but there again she doesn’t get a lot of interest in other things.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: for example, her sex drive for years has been the same, very high, very intense. It climbs higher and then it will slide back down gradually.

Russ: hmm, now this is basically all part of growing correct?

Karra: correct yes.

Russ: and how does this compare also with the physical growing states?

Karra: well as a young child you grow rapidly and you're very active and hyper. It is not very often that you see a child that is young and growing that is very lethargic and lacking in activity. Normally when you see a child like that it is not very well, poor and sickly. So yes, the hyperactivity is relevant to the growing.

Russ: so that’s physical and then you take a break from that a bit, grow the rest of your life sort of.

Karra: yes but it does affect you in the spiritual development and your interests but the hyperactivity does remain in certain things when you’re in a hurry to do something for example.

Russ: hmm, okay I understand. Now with the growth spurt that each of us goes on…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: the amount of rest means the between spurts is just the amount of rest needed due to the large amount of spurt that you had?

Karra: yes, it is equal. If you have a huge spurt of activity, then you need to have a fair bit of rest.

Russ: okay.

Karra: you run many miles but you need about the same amount of time to recover.

Russ: hmm, I understand. And afterwards you’ve rested……

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: you're different from the point before the spurt.

Karra: correct, if you’re not, then you might as well of not had that spurt........thank you.

(speaking to someone in the channeling room on the base)

Russ: right.

(one of the Cubs says something in Durondedunn)

Karra: we have a few children around.

Russ: I took a wild guess, it’s not often I hear you speaking Durondedunn.

Karra: no.

Russ: all right……

Karra: apparently they have come out to see what’s going on.

Russ: I figured.

Karra: uh-huh, they fit right in, they’re in their nightclothes and a few people are in their “nightclothes”.

Russ: okay, so I went from spurt to rest….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now back to spurt.

Karra: correct.

Russ: without the rest, are you basically oftentimes burning your candles as we would say like for Carrie?

Karra: yes, how do you mean by burning your candles, at both ends?

Russ: well for example you’re burning brightly.

Karra: uh-huh yes, when I work on Carrie, I focus all my energy on Carrie.

Russ: uh-huh, correct. Now afterwards, do you take a rest period?

Karra: if I can yes.

Russ: okay and after any healing period….

Karra: if I can......

Russ: or any healing that you’ve done.

Karra: if I can, yes.

Russ: if you can you will.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Karra: there are times when you have seen me that I have looked very tired and my hair is not buoyant and it's limp and my eyes are kind of glazy and that is when I haven’t had the opportunities to take rest. And it’s not just because I’ve healed two or three people, it’s because I’ve been very busy and healed many and I’m low on energy.

Russ: now can you draw energy from me?

Karra: yes I can.

Russ: when you need to?

Karra: when you’re up here.

Russ: okay.

Karra: you have to be close enough for me to reach out and touch as it were. The further away somebody is the less energy I can pull. From you I can’t pull any because you’re too far away.

Russ: oh.

Karra: although I could pull energy into Mark’s body through you.

Russ: right.

Karra: but not up here to me.

Russ: right. Okay yeah because there’s just some times that I want to heal you more than anything else.

Karra: yes.