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(Tia considers the question on if, like "Dune", other races have been responsible for seeding the galaxy with concepts that would spawn religions and civilizations. The discussion considers the religions of Sirius and Durondedunn. One hint emerges that points to a possible correlation with the Jesuits.) 

Tia: okay let’s get down to business.

Russ: okay. This evening we're working on 'Dune' and all that it includes.

Tia: ahh yes, 'Dune'.

Russ: now mostly Karra’s been briefed on all this fun stuff that we’re working on tonight.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but…..

Tia: and she’s being tickled again.

Russ: uh-huh. So who do you want to go first?

Tia: well I’m online, they’re tickling each other.

Russ: okay, then we’ll go with you then sweetheart.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: since I have to go to into gray areas here in the first part of the thing anyway, I might as well go with you.

Tia: oh okay.

Russ: you’re the most fun to deal with the gray areas.

Tia: why?

Russ: because you never answer my questions.

Tia: oh okay.

Russ: I always like your answers. All right now, did anybody brief you about this stuff?

Tia: no.

Russ: oh good. Okay, in 'Dune', part of the story through most of the books revolve around something called the 'Missionaria Protectiva'.

Tia: yes?

Russ: and how that works is that various as they’re called 'Bene Gesserit'….

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: you saw the movie right?

Tia: no.

Russ: no? Well various 'Bene Gesserit' help get planets prepared for a future which could be millennia later of helping out one of their sisters by planting religions.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: that they then foster and let grow until some day the religions take a life of their own when one of their sisters needs help in some way or another.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: one of the points that came up in this is well just how does Ashtar Command work in a similar capacity?

Tia: I don’t know, you’re probably walking into a gray area.

Russ: well I knew I’d walk into a gray area, of course I did. I wouldn't ask you otherwise.

Tia: I don’t know the workings of Ashtar Command that well to be able to say that is what it does or doesn’t do. It more seems like it nudges and coaches and opens up possibilities.

Russ: okay, well let’s take Durondedunn.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and Durondedunn, with its various religions and all, perfect place to plant a religion and let it grow don’t you think?

Tia: uh-huh. It never occurred to me before.

Russ: what about the goddess?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean here on earth we had a couple goddess religions but they died out.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: very early. Whereas on yours, they were shunned a little bit for a while and were outcasts but then it came back into full force as it is now.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: okay, well it seems to me that that is something that could really work in its favor.

Tia: well I think that’s because you are patriarchal society and we're a matriarchal society. It would be self-evident that you would have your male God or gods and we have our female goddess or goddesses.

Russ: hmm, maybe that's why our God is always expressed as a male?

Tia: I have noticed that but our goddess is always referred to as either she or the goddess.

Russ: so it’s a similar thing?

Tia: yes, it’s self-evident.

Russ: it’s not a gender undefined, it’s a gender specific God or goddess correct?

Tia: uh-huh, yes correct, which is natural for a less evolved minds.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: from what I’ve learned of the Sirian religions, is that they have a he and a she and at the very top is an undetermined gender.

Russ: right, a voice that is neither male nor female, loud or soft.

Tia: uh-huh, perfect balance.

Russ: uh-huh and I’m just wondering though, how much religion ever gets seeded and how much as it gets basically just put there naturally and I’m not going to go into that because they're in gray areas but just a curiosity.

Tia: yeah, out of curiosity, I would say that it is probably seeded but not deliberately. On your planet it was probably derived from the Sirian religions.

Russ: well there's also that and then also we have of course the extraterrestrial visitors.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and then of course we have again the devas.

Tia: correct.

Russ: so in all of that, it produces quite a variety of religions, why you can’t nail it down to just one? Whereas on Sirius, it’s pretty basically just one primary religion.

Tia: that’s correct.

Russ: and on Durondedunn, one primary religion.

Tia: no there are minor religions.

Russ: right but primary.

Tia: well primary on your planet, there is one religion, Christianity.

Russ: that’s sort of true.

Tia: sort of true, what do you mean?

Russ: well the Muslim religion I hear has got more or at least as many as the Christian religion does.

Tia: yeah but they have Allah and who is Allah?

Russ: right.

Tia: it has Allah…..

Russ: I see.

Tia: one God who is the same as that Judaeo God who is in turn is the same as the Christian God. If you read Abraham, you will see that there is Ishmael who is the son that splits off and founds the Muslim religion.

Russ: hmmm.

Tia: you see?

Russ: uh-huh, but doesn’t get dealt with in the Bible at all?

Tia: no but there is just that hint.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: you see? And in the Bible, the Judeo religion goes on to become the Judeo-Christian religion.

Russ: what about the sons of Cain…...

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: who traveled off into lands and weren’t heard from again?

Tia: I don’t know, I didn’t read your Bible. They could be other religions, they could be the Babylonian religion, they could be the Mesopotamian religion, who knows?

Russ: okay