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(Karra has a large group of healers so we get a lot of different topics getting bounced around with no clear center. To list them in order, they would be: healers sharing energy, chakras, dark side of humanity, being perfect, honey for healing, Hebrews and healing and sterilizing an area.) 

Karra: okay, you have a question for me Velvet.

Velvet: yep, a question about healing.

Karra: okay.

Velvet: can we healers…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Velvet: take another healer’s energy away if they fight back?

Karra: it depends on what you mean by fighting back, physical fighting no.

Velvet: no, I’m talking about healing powers.

Karra: healing powers. Why would you want to fight another healer?

Russ: sounds like contradiction in terms.

Karra: exactly.

Velvet: no, well you’re trying to take a healer’s energy away, another healers and they’re trying to take your energy away, what do you do?

Karra: it doesn’t work that way.

Velvet: it doesn’t?

Karra: no, healers don’t take…..do not fight over energy. They share energy if necessary. One healer will help another healer but they will not fight each other.

Velvet: so if one healer is low on energy….

Karra: you can then……

Velvet: and one’s on high?

Karra: you can blend the two together, if the weaker healer is stronger in his or her healing ability, she can then focus the energy of the weaker healer that is being used to help.

Velvet: okay, that sounds fair.

Karra: uh-huh but never fight over energy.

Velvet: okay, I just want to ask one question….

Karra: oh that’s all right.

Velvet: okay when you’re putting your hands on someone’s back and they start to get hot, are you giving them energy or are you taking….?

Karra: it depends on which part you doing it. If you're pumping energy......

Velvet: on your back, you’re right here on this part.

Karra: yes.

Skip: shoulders.

Velvet: shoulders? Shoulder blades, what should you do?

Karra: well it depends…..

Velvet: is it are you taking the energy away?

Karra: if you’re taking away the hurt, then you are taking away the energy that’s creating the hurt. If you are making them feel better and stronger, you’re pumping the energy in.

Velvet: now Linda said something about light to light.

Karra: uh-huh.

Velvet: what is that?

Karra: light energy.

Velvet: light energy, when one light touches another…….

Karra: it makes it brighter.

Velvet: uh-huh and she said when it comes out, you go (breathes deeply), and that’s when you see the light.

Karra: that’s a very odd way to describe it but basically what you’re doing is you’re pumping your light energy because you give off light which can be called an aura.

Velvet: an aura?

Karra: aura.

Velvet: aura?

Karra: yes.

Velvet: what’s that?

Karra: it’s an energy field that surrounds you that is light.

Velvet: I have another book, Mark gave my mom a book on chrakras and the human energy fields.

Russ: chakras.

Karra: chakras.

Velvet: chakras and the human energy fields.

Karra: uh-huh.

Velvet: what is that about?

Karra: it’s about points of energy spread throughout the body that can be used for healing and other purposes. Okay Skip, as a healer, do you have a question?

Skip: no but my powers getting stronger.

Karra: uh-huh, why is that?

Skip: because my attitude is changing.

Karra: that’s part of the key, if you’re negative, then the energy is suppressed. As you become more and more positive, you become stronger and stronger.

Skip: my attitude’s totally changed.

Karra: that’s good, you've become stronger and stronger in a spiritual form as well as a physical form.

Skip: uh-huh, because I’m not the same person that you met six, eight months ago.

Karra: no, you were a very dark individual at that point.

Skip: (chuckles)

Russ: somewhat dark and unfocused.

Karra: uh-huh and now you’re laughing which is is a positive laugh.

Russ: and you’ve got your focus back.

Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now you know where you’re going with it.

Skip: yep, indeed.

Russ: it definitely shows.

Skip: do something that makes me feel even better.

Russ: what’s that?

Skip: become rich and famous.

Karra: you're already are rich and famous Skip.

Skip: I mean to the rest of the world.

Karra: ahhh…..

(Skip laughs)

Karra: you’re talking about fiscal wealth.

Skip: yes, yes, yes. Getting tired of being mediocre.

(someone comes into the room)

Russ: I have a suggestion.....

Karra: hello, hello and hello.

Velvet: hello.

Karra: how’s it going mistress healer?

Skip: no, my attitude has changed completely since we first started having these sessions.

Karra: oh that’s good. Now, all the healers put their hands up and wave them. Sorry, just my way of having fun and it's also a statement of point. How many healers are in the room?

Velvet: five.

Karra: uh-huh, so there’s a lot of healers all in one place.

Russ: uh-huh.

Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: which means that there should be no ailments or illnesses in this room at all.

Skip: that’s right.

Karra: uh-huh, yes it is strong energy isn’t it?

Linda T: uh-huh.

Karra: okay, any questions?

Russ: first off, how’s that pyramid set up, okay?

Karra: it’s still slightly off but it’s manageable.

Russ: okay, I see the problem.

Karra: okay?

Russ: it’s an exact science, I know.

Karra: yes, like healing is an exact science.

Russ: correct, we’ll try that and see if that works.

Skip: question.

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: I want to find out if my dark side is disappearing.

Karra: no, it gets suppressed.

Skip: I’m sorry?

Karra: it gets suppressed, it doesn’t disappear, it just gets suppressed by good. Everybody has a dark side, everybody.

Linda T: Karra, isn’t it true that a dark side is not really a dark side, it’s only a misunderstood emotion or thought?

Karra: it’s a politically correct way of putting it I suppose. It is a mischievous side that behaves in a way that is unrepressed and self-centered and no morals, no values, it’s dark.

Linda T: right, no integrity.

Karra: yes........and everybody has it, some to a lesser and some to a greater.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: but it can be harnessed and used sometimes. It is always there to remind us of what we could be if we weren’t so moralistic and I don’t mean that in a good sense.

Russ: right.

Linda T: Karra?

Karra: uh-huh?

Linda T: learning to be one with each one of those aspects of yourself and in that way that you want to change or transform to the cosmic vibration.

Karra: yes, it’s a reminder, it’s a reminder.

Linda T: oh.

Karra: uh-huh but it serves a function. Could you imagine…….

Linda T: a great function right?

Karra: yeah if you want to. Could you imagine somebody that has no negative vibrations whatsoever?

Linda T: that wouldn't be too realistic.

Skip: that be perfect.

Russ: no it would be hell.

Skip: no I said they would be perfect.

Linda T: right.

Karra: they would be too good to be true.

Skip: that’s right.

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: they’d be perfect and there is no such a thing.

Karra: no, everybody that I know, every entity makes mistakes from time to time.

Russ: yeah even Jesus had problems….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: being a healer.

Karra: yes, exactly.

Skip: my dad told me a little thing when I was just a little guy….

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: that the person that didn’t make mistakes is the person that never done anything.

Karra: uh-huh, I think you told Kiri that last time.

Skip: I think so.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: hmm, okay.

Skip: but it’s the truth, if you don’t do anything, you can’t make mistakes.

Karra: if you don’t do anything you’re quite right, can't make mistakes. Okay, next question.

Russ: okay the Egyptians at the height of their medical science were skilled at surgery and also in the use of honey for healing in the fact that they found out that honey inhibits the growth of bacteria and also draws water from the cells. Now why does honey do this, I never even heard of this before?

Karra: it’s because of the molecular structure and the density and viscosity of the material. It also has certain properties that are quite frequently overlooked. One of the contents is natural sugar, a natural sweetener which acts as a preservative and in essence gives the microorganisms or bacteria a lot of food to feed on. They overfeed, they overindulge and what happens when something overeats and overindulges?

Skip: they die.

Karra: exactly.

Russ: okay, so when using this in herbology….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: honey actually has a very good role in herbology as far as being able to.....let’s say somebody cuts themselves, sealing it off by pouring honey on the wound.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: let’s say you're at the time when you don’t have any hydrogen peroxide, you’re out in the woods….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: someone cuts themselves and all you’ve got is a jar of honey.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: just pour some honey on the wound?

Karra: clean the wound first.

Russ: okay.

Karra: yeah, honey is always used for more beneficial things than just a cut.

Russ: like what?

Karra: like mixing it into things if you make a poultice.

Russ: okay.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: oh I see what you mean, for like a skin ulcer or something.

Karra: correct.

Russ: hmm.

Skip: it could also work for sun burns.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: sun burn?

Skip: yes.

Karra: don’t forget to make it nice and viscous so you can baste yourself with it. See, having so many healers grouped together in one place all at the same time you can actually get down to real healing business.

Russ: ahh.

Skip: well doesn’t some of the commercial lotions….

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: have honey additives in them?

Russ: really?

Skip: yes they do, wheat germ and honey.

Russ: wow.....see, learn something new every night.

Karra: yeah, that’s the most useful advantage of having so many healers together is you can sit down and trade ideas.

Skip: you see now I've remembered a lot of things that I was taught when I was a little boy that my grandmother used as home remedies per se.

Karra: and your grandmother was a pioneer lady right?

Skip: more or less yes, more or less.

Karra: uh-huh, so she would have knowledge of how to survive on the…..

Skip: natural things in and around the country we lived in which like a bee sting, if you take tobacco and wet it you put it on, it will draw the bee sting out.

Shane: you know what else will work?

Karra: huh?

Shane: is a leaf and the ground, you take the earth in a tree and you take the grass and the leaf and you mix them together and you take the stinger out.

Skip: tobacco seems to do a real good job.

Shane: tobacco is up from the earth (?).

Linda T: it’s true, it's right, it's exactly right.

Karra: that it’s a leaf, uh-huh.

Skip: it’s a leaf.

Russ: never heard that before.

Skip: what? Tobacco to pull out a bee sting?

Russ: I mean either one of those two I’ve never heard of before.

Linda T: oh yeah...

Russ: you know? I just suffered you know?

Linda T: or if you get bit by a spider or any kind of poison snake, anything poison, it’ll suck it right out.

Skip: yeah, tobacco will pull it, it’ll pull it.

Karra: and tying in with this, how much percentage Indian are you Skip?

Skip: about 25%.

Karra: but Russ is what? You're.....

Russ: I'm about an eighth yeah.

Karra: uh-huh, so between all the people of room, we probably got about half a percent….

Russ: almost three quarters of an Indian.

Karra: yeah....

Russ: we're missing a link.

Karra: yeah, between the three people that are of Indian descent, I’m sure you could come up with some old Indian medicines that you can work together with and this is a prime example with herbology and the uses of tobacco, it’s not all bad Russ.

Skip: there's a lot a natural vegetables, weeds and so on and so forth that have healing powers.

Russ: hey by the way, the Hebrew people…

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: upon leaving Egypt and before Egypt, had a degree of keeping a cleanliness that wasn’t even equaled up until our modern times.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and I mean no one around them even came close to what these guys.......and it was….

Karra: are you sure?

Russ: pretty sure.

Karra: you mean in their area or on your planet?

Russ: in their area.

Karra: ahh okay, yeah.

Linda T: what type of a cleanliness?

Karra: well for example, they'd change clothes if they were in an area where there was communicable disease and they were treating it, washing wounds.......

Linda T: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean everybody else took healing and they basically treated it as a mystic kind of thing and they asked their gods to heal or the priests would heal but the Hebrew people took all that religious stuff and threw it out the window and just took everything they learned from the people around them and used that strictly, logically as what worked and they healed with just that.

Karra: and that’s an example of why as a race they have survived so long.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: I mean how old is the Hebrew race?

Russ: it's close to 3,000, 4,000 years old.

Karra: close to 4,000.

Russ: right.

Karra: what’s the next oldest race?

Russ: that would be the Mayans maybe?

Skip: Egyptians, wouldn’t it?

Russ: Egyptians aren't really a race anymore.

Karra: neither are the Mayans.

Russ: right, well there are Mayans, there are......

Laura: the Mayans that survived.

Russ: yeah.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: oh the Chinese.

Karra: yes.

Russ: oh okay, right and the Chinese had a degree of cleaning also that was very big on cleanliness.

Karra: that’s right.

Russ: oh, I see.

Linda T: both aspects are true.

Karra: uh-huh.

Linda T: it’s the same as that when you get a spiritual healing and doctors who work from a third dimensional place of operation, both aspects are necessary….

Karra: yes.

Linda T: it’s them learning to work together in harmony that the earth needs to learn.

Karra: and that’s why I’m so happy, almost ecstatically happy that we have so many healers together in one place. It is a prime example of healers coming together to exchange ideas.

Russ: uh-huh. Well when we’re coming up into our future here where things will need to be more understood as what works because let’s say you can’t get to a doctor…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: then again we get right back down to where the Hebrews started from.

Karra: correct and relearning how to set bones, how to deal with herbology, how to deal with the importance of cleanliness, you learn all the basics that have been taken for granted. For example, how do you sterilize a room?

Linda T: you need to rise the vibrations.

Karra: we're talking about just practical cleaning….

Linda T: cleaning it?

Russ: for like a surgery or something?

Karra: yeah, for a surgery.

Linda T: disinfect it.

Russ: take the carpets out?

Karra: you use boiling, hot water, as hot as possible.

Russ: what do you do about the carpets?

Karra: remove the carpets. You get anything that could bring in infections or negative vibrations or parasites, get them out.

Russ: you mean wash the walls and everything?

Linda T: yeah.

Karra: everything, top to bottom and where do you start cleaning?

Russ: on the ceiling.

Karra: correct and you work your way down.

Skip: yeah, you have to.

Karra: uh-huh, because it’s no good starting on the floor because the heat going up will create a huge environment for the microbes on the ceiling and they will fall back down to the floor. So you get every possible contaminant out of the room. Felines, feline hair, other people…

Linda T: that goes for thoughts, emotions and actions.

Karra: uh-huh, now here’s an interesting thought, what is the best person to have as a doctor, as a healer?

Russ: someone you know?

Karra: no, somebody that has knowledge certainly, that's important but the best person to be a healer and the most sterile is a lady that is ovulating. And now this is because when a lady ovulates or a woman ovulates, it’s because to be at the perfect stage to receive a child, they have to be sterile. I’m not saying sterile as in the expert way, I’m saying as in cleanliness sterile.

Skip: hmmm.

Russ: oh I see, okay.

Karra: so at that point, that point when a lady is ovulating or a woman or a young lady, she is as clean as she can be.

Russ: well when you were doing surgery in the field back when you were in the army……

(part of the Sirian Defense Force who helped out 3rd dimensional worlds where the path to a higher dimension was blocked)

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: how did you deal with the un-antiseptic environments you are in?

Karra: I just told you, I just told you, boiling hot water.

Russ: oh you just boil everything and just do the tents and everything.

Karra: tents, everything.

Skip: you got to do the instruments, bandages, the whole works, everything needs to be boiled.

Karra: yep, we used to take the tent down and we used to boil it.

Russ: boil the whole tent?

Karra: the whole tent.

Skip: that’s the quickest way to do it.

Russ: sheesh.

Karra: and the poles, the poles would be cleansed with fire.

Russ: man, what kind of poles were you using?

Karra: well we were using metal poles.

Skip: the fire does, fire is a sterilizer too.

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: but you can’t use fire on everything.

Karra: that’s right, can’t use it on wood.

Skip: that’s correct but you can use it on anything metal.

Karra: that’s right.

Laura: haven't you ever seen anybody burning the end of a blade to take a sliver out?

Russ: yeah, I’ve done it myself a few times sure.

Skip: and you never give it a thought.

Russ: well yeah, I knew that's why I was doing it......

Karra: c'mon Russ.

Russ: but I never thought of having a boil a tent.

Skip: why not?

Russ: I'd never find a pan big enough.

(everyone laughs)

Karra: it’s surprising how small a tent can get down to.

Skip: yes it is.

Russ: that’s good.

Karra: I have......if you come down to my lab Russ, you will see a pan that holds I think about 30 of your gallons?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: big tent will fit in there.

Russ: really?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, well I’m learning something new again, all right.

Skip: well that’s why I told you.

Russ: okay cool, thank you darling.

Karra: but mental thinking can also be a healing process. If you create a healing vibe or vibrations, you can heal things quite easy. That’s what we're always stressing the importance of.

Skip: well the positive attitude that I’m coming up with is making me feel better, consequently it’s easier for me to make other people feel better.

Karra: oh that’s good, having a positive external front can help tremendously.

Skip: have a what now?

Karra: a positive…..

Skip: oh yes, yes, yes okay right.

Karra: a positive demeanor.

Skip: attitude.

Karra: uh-huh.

Skip: uh-huh.

Karra: that’s the word I was looking for, attitude.

Skip: inside and out, inside and out.

Karra: that’s right.

Skip: okay, in other words, project a positive attitude and still have that same positive attitude on the inside of you.

Karra: that’s right.

Skip: and it’s making it easier for me to perform or reach…..maybe not perform, that wouldn't be the right word…..how to reach other people and help them mentally and physically.

Karra: now I’m going to have to step out for a few minutes because I need to go and pick up a very drunken young lady that’s taken a nosedive and I shall be back shortly.