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(Karra describes how photonic energy is used in healing by working with a cat that was up against Mark’s body and had a bad eye. The difference in energies between regular and photonic is noted due to the increased speed her efforts achieve a noticeable result.) 

Russ: how are you my dear?

Karra: I’m doing fine.

Russ: good, so we’ve been working a lot together here lately.

Karra: yes we have haven’t we?

Russ: uh-huh, so let’s talk about cycles shall we?

Karra: okay.

Russ: all right now, do you go through the same cycles or….?

Karra: yes I do.

Russ: okay, and is this just a natural occurrence everyone has to like go at high-speed on one thing that has huge spiritual implications for them?

Karra: pretty much so yes but some people are outside that factor and they maintain that high energy all the time. Take Kiri for example, she remains incredibly focused quite a lot of the time, lucky girl. She doesn’t lose lack of interest very often in things but there again she doesn’t get a lot of interest in other things.

Russ: hmm, now this is basically all part of growing correct?

Karra: correct yes.

Russ: and how does this compare also with the physical growing states?

Karra: well as a young child you grow rapidly and you're very active and hyper. It is not very often that you see a child that is young and growing that is very lethargic and lacking in activity. Normally when you see a child like that it is not very well, poor and sickly. So yes, the hyperactivity is relevant to the growing.

Russ: so that’s physical and then you take a break from that a bit, grow the rest of your life sort of.

Karra: yes but it does affect you in the spiritual development and your interests but the hyperactivity does remain in certain things when you’re in a hurry to do something for example.

Russ: hmm, okay I understand. Now with the growth spurt that each of us goes on…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: the amount of rest means the between spurts is just the amount of rest needed due to the large amount of spurt that you had?

Karra: yes, it is equal. If you have a huge spurt of activity, then you need to have a fair bit of rest.

Russ: okay.

Karra: you run many miles but you need about the same amount of time to recover.

Russ: hmm, I understand. And afterwards you’ve rested……

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: you're different from the point before the spurt.

Karra: correct, if you’re not, then you might as well of not had that spurt........thank you.

Russ: okay, so I went from spurt to rest….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now back to spurt.

Karra: correct.

Russ: without the rest, are you basically oftentimes burning your candles as we would say like for Carrie?

Karra: yes, how do you mean by burning your candles, at both ends?

Russ: well for example you’re burning brightly.

Karra: uh-huh yes, when I work on Carrie, I focus all my energy on Carrie.

Russ: uh-huh, correct. Now afterwards, do you take a rest period?

Karra: if I can yes.

Russ: okay and after any healing period….

Karra: if I can......

Russ: or any healing that you’ve done.

Karra: if I can, yes.

Russ: if you can you will.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Karra: there are times when you have seen me that I have looked very tired and my hair is not buoyant and it's limp and my eyes are kind of glazy and that is when I haven’t had the opportunities to take rest. And it’s not just because I’ve healed two or three people, it’s because I’ve been very busy and healed many and I’m low on energy.

Russ: now can you draw energy from me?

Karra: yes I can.

Russ: when you need to?

Karra: when you’re up here.

Russ: okay.

Karra: you have to be close enough for me to reach out and touch as it were. The further away somebody is the less energy I can pull. From you I can’t pull any because you’re too far away.

Russ: oh.

Karra: although I could pull energy into Mark’s body through you.

Russ: right.

Karra: but not up here to me.

Russ: right. Okay yeah because there’s just some times that I want to heal you more than anything else.

Karra: yes.

Russ: okay now, the amount of energy we can expend……

Karra: yes.

Russ: is proportional to the amount of energy we have……

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: correct?

Karra: correct.

Russ: now, the amount of energy we have is proportional to the amount of energy we can draw in from around us.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so, why is it we never remember to draw in all the energy necessary that we need for any occasion that we have?

Karra: because you never know exactly what that occasion is going to need. If you knew what every occasion was going to need, you would know what the occasion was, how to handle it, what was going to happen and it would be very boring and tedious. By being able to not pull in enough energy or pull in too much can be fun and entertaining and part of growing.

Russ: well for example, today up at Heavenly okay?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: getting towards the end of the day there and it's starting to slow down a little bit and I’m practicing tai chi......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay? Now at that point I can start working on drawing in more energy to give myself some more energy.

Karra: yes.

Russ: and that would be coming from the skiers in the room and just basic earth energy from around.

Karra: correct.

Russ: okay, now do you have any information on whether or not the photon cloud has any energy giving abilities?

Karra: I believe we have covered that yes.

Russ: right. So that’s a new source I can draw upon….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: as necessary.

Karra: yes and the reason we haven’t told you to do so is because you have to learn that for yourself.

Russ: right, photonic energy I believe we discussed.

Karra: yes we have.

Russ: okay, so with the photonic energy, we’ve never really discussed physical properties of it…….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: except for the fact that it’s different from other energy.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: are the differences something I have to learn or is something you can help me with?

Karra: something that you have to learn. I can tell you how to use it, how to handle it, how it reacts, how it behaves but those are words. Until you experience and learn to manipulate it, the words mean nothing.

Russ: right.

Karra: I can tell you when you pull the energy in is to breathe normally but yet feel it filling your body. Those are words, it gives you an idea but until you do it and learn it, they mean nothing.

Russ: right and that’s just for basic for any energy.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: photonic energy would naturally react differently.

(she takes a close look at the cat in the room)

Karra: now it’s this side that’s blind is it?

Russ: right.

Karra: uh-huh, it’s connected.

Russ: to the other one?

Karra: no, connected to the optic nerve.

Russ: hmm, maybe just some accident.

Karra: it’s possible that he…..it is not seeing properly, that it’s blurred and fuzzy so he doesn’t bother using it and it shuts itself down naturally.

Russ: hmmm…

Karra: anyway….

Russ: doesn't seem to hamper it. Okay so, real quickly then, does photonic energy aid in the healing process more than regular energy does?

Karra: it depends on how you use it. For example, let me fire up here. That one’s black is it?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: very close up.....they're brothers. This was the patient if my memory serves me right.

Russ: right.

Karra: okay. Okay, I’m only going to pump energy in, I’m not going to do any fixing or repairing. That is something that he needs to learn and he’s getting agitated from the energy flow. Okay, feel the base of the hand.

Russ: uh-huh, it's warm.

Karra: uh-huh, yes and that was quicker wasn’t it than normal?

Russ: right, that was photonic.

Karra: uh-huh, see how he tweaked his head and he started twitching his ears and turning and diving his head? He’s not used to that energy flow.

Russ: ahh, so I see, so you’ve been learning to use it.

Karra: I learned how to use it long ago. Now….

Russ: oh. Wait a second, I thought the photon cloud was just a new phenomenon for this period of time.

Karra: yes, don’t forget I am sixth dimensional, I do remember.

Russ: oh that’s right.

Karra: okay now watch his eyes……..come on, here we go. Now watch how his eyes grow.

Russ: oh yeah.

Karra: it was little bit too much for him that time but he likes it there because of the energy flow.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: have you noticed that where most cats sleep when they curl up next to you?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: look at how Mark’s body is at present how we’ve got him, chakra and the line bends but there's the flow that is straight down, where does it go?

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: and then you have the other one earlier on that was right behind Mark’s legs.

Russ: right.

Karra: root chakra, right the way down through. Most cats like to sleep in those places don’t they?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: so what does that tell you?

Russ: that they gain energy from you but they also pass it on.

Karra: correct, they’re in the flow line.

Russ: right. Okay, so photonic energy is my homework assignment for the week.

Karra: yes……..sorry.

Russ: no problem.

Karra: no it’s just something that Kiri whispered in my ear.

Russ: oh.

Karra: concerning of where he’s lying and a comment she made.

Russ: something about the root chakra?

Karra: no, it was something to do with if he was up here it would be a pussy on a pussy.

Russ: ahh good ole Kiri.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay so I’ll work on my homework this week.