(Tia shows how our future
is our present as the channeling talked about the
dangers facing any transition from Boris Yeltsin
and it would turn out to be the rise of Vladimir
Putin. This time channeling is made more exciting
as she was getting reports on her headset of
pitched fighting taking place near Chechnya so the
session ends on that note.)
Russ:
hi Tia.
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Skip: how you doing love?
Tia: yo.
Skip: yo.
Tia: I’m doing good.
Skip: good.
Tia: I know what I need.
Russ: market took a crunch
today.
Tia: sorry?
Russ: market took a crunch
today.
Tia: what happened to it?
Russ: stock market?
Tia: oh market, you have to
enunciate.
Russ: oh sorry, yeah stock
market just…..
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: my imaginary stocks that
I’ve got, a hundred thousand
dollars worth I lost probably
a $1,000.00 maybe?
Skip: oh really?
Russ: uh-huh.
Tia: uh-huh, it wasn’t too bad
actually, I don’t think it was
too bad at all. Okay, let us
look at some goings-on in the
markets……not the market, the
world and I’ve got to be quick
because we only have a limited
length of time.
Russ: oh yeah, a little under
10 minutes.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, let us look
at Russia. Russia, what can I
say about Russia? What can’t I
say about Russia? I could say
a lot of things about Russia,
none of them positive. Boris
Yeltsin, our resident
alcoholic president and his
changing in mind and the
upcoming elections. Okay this
is what I see happening,
trouble, big trouble. The
economy appears to be stable,
I say appears to be and for
the casual observer it is
stable. But, if you look at
the markets and I’m not
talking about the financial
markets, I’m talking about
general markets, the prices of
food, the prices of commodity,
the prices of heating oil, oh
dear. The quote, "the ruble
don’t buy what it used to buy
and there isn’t enough of it".
The markets in Russia are in
turmoil, the prices are
staggering. The lack of action
by the government is
aggravating to the situation.
Not because pumping money into
the economy would work, what
would that do? That would
increase inflation, print more
money for money that you don’t
have. You do that, you’re
asking for inflationary
problems and the ruble
definitely won’t buy what it
used to buy, in fact it will
buy a lot less of what it used
to buy. Devaluing the ruble
did not fix the problems. You
remember we talked about the
devaluation of the ruble and I
said it was a temporary fix
that wouldn’t last very long?
Russ: right.
Skip: uh-huh.
Tia: well it hasn’t lasted
very long. I mentioned the
winter, I hate to think of how
many people died in Russia
this last winter and it was a
mild winter, mild for Russia.
If it had been a harsh winter
oh dear, if it is a harsh
winter this year, oh dear. The
last time that there was a
major harsh winter followed or
pre-cursed by financial
unrest, financial
difficulties, food problems,
food production problems,
guess what happened?
Skip: huh?
Tia: I'll give you a clue, it
happened in November and it
happened just over 80 years
ago.
Skip: eight years ago.
Tia: 80.
Russ: is that when the Soviets
took over?
Skip: '91?
Russ: the communists?
Tia: Russ is right, it was the
communists. 1917 November.
Harsh, harsh…..
Skip: oh 80 years ago.
Tia: yeah 80.
Skip: I’m sorry.
Tia: 82 to be precise. Very
harsh winter in the middle of
a war.
Skip: it was right at the end
of the war wasn't it darling?
Tia: another year to go,
another year to go in the
first world war.
Skip: oh no, that’s 1812 to
1814 wasn’t it?
Russ: 1815 or 1817 to 1819?
Tia: you’re both wrong, Russ
is closer but he’s off by a
100 years.
Russ: oh….
Tia: 1914 to 1918.
Skip: oh yeah, first world war
okay.
Tia: okay, okay.
Skip: I’m sorry.
Tia: that’s all right.
Skip: 100 years too early.
Tia: uh-huh, 100 years too
early but that started the
revolution. Financial crisis
followed by massive corruption
followed by…..
Skip: Socialism.
Tia: well actually food
problems, the ruble wasn’t
buying what the ruble used to
buy, people starving, civil
unrest and what does that
sound like?
Skip: isn’t that the beginning
of communism per se?
Tia: uh-huh, that’s when it
started but what does that
whole entire scenario sound
like?
Russ: sounds like
now.......well sounds like
with Yeltsin firing his prime
minister and the cabinet and
trying to get this new guy in
there….
Skip: sounds like this
country.
Russ: I don’t think the Duma
is going to agree to this new
guy.
Tia: well they agreed to the
last one three months ago in
May.
Russ: they had to.
Skip: do they have any choice
other than the revolution?
Tia: yes there is a choice and
it is kind of a revolution but
it’s not really a revolution,
it’s what you would call a
bloodless palace coup.
Skip: yeah, okay.
Tia: and that’s basically you
get as many people on your
side as possible, turn around
to the president and say, “you
got two choices, either you
leave or we impeach you”.
Russ: yeah, lack of confidence
in the Senate. Well Nixon went
through the same thing and had
to resign.
Tia: uh-huh. Clinton went
through the same thing but
somehow he survived.
Russ: he had enough support on
one side to get through it
but.....
Tia: uh-huh we won’t go there
because I could go on about
that for a long time.
Russ: right.
Tia: okay now Russia, remember
what was said about the Asian
flu?
Russ: yeah, it started in
Japan but it spread to
Russia.......
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: and everyone else in the
whole entire section.
Tia: okay and it’s also spread
to South America but it’s not
as bad, I believe it was
stated that it appears to be
petering out. But, Russia is
in a very precarious position.
If they have a bloodless
palace coup and they succeed
and Yeltsin is ousted out,
then the situation will
temporarily be relieved. They
will give the new government
an opportunity to prove itself
however, with the corruption
that already exists, this is
just a rest period, just a
respite. It all pivots on one
thing, weather.
Russ: doesn’t Russia have huge
natural resources in its
eastern section it could sell
and make up the lost revenue
from the reforms?
Tia: you mean the oilfields?
Russ: the oilfields, the
natural gas, all those
reserves they have in the
eastern section near Siberia.
Tia: doesn’t belong to them
anymore.
Russ: oh crap that’s right,
broke up their country.
Tia: uh-huh, that’s another
thing that is irking the
Russians.
Russ: that’s right, I remember
that.
Tia: uh-huh.
Skip: yeah they totally broke
up their country.
Tia: uh-huh, they’re all
independent nations.
Russ: and they’re going to
blame the current president
for any kind of problems that
happen because of that.
Skip: yeah.
Tia: because he didn't
actually do it did he?
Russ: no, Gorbachev did.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: but Yeltsin was
Gorbachev’s hand-picked
successor.
Skip: he got caught in the
current.
Tia: uh-huh, oops.
Russ: yeah, and
Gennady........whatever it
is....the communist leader in
the Duma, isn't very popular
as far as becoming president
but given enough circumstances
he could bring back the
communist rule.
Skip: yes he could, real
quick.
Tia: uh-huh, very quickly and
all the other countries around
them, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan,
all those countries aren't
very strong militarily wise.
Russ: no, a strong military
leader could take over those
countries........
Skip: they could go right back
to being USSR.
Russ: sure.
Tia: uh-huh so easily and it
would be a very popular move
with the people.
Russ: oh yes.
Skip: oh yes it would be.
Tia: because the majority have
known nothing but communist
rule.
Russ: right, people would
volunteer for the army at that
point.
Tia: uh-huh.
Skip: heck yeah.
Russ: just to go in and take
over another country and take
the spoils.
Tia: exactly.
Skip: huh.
Tia: so you see the dangers of
the palace coup?
Russ: teetering on the edge.
Tia: that would be what they
would be forced to do.
Russ: that’s why the World
Bank gave them a new loan…..
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: just this last month.
Tia: uh-huh, do you want to
know something?
Russ: huh?
Tia: it’s happening, it
started.
Skip: I can believe it, I can
believe it.
Tia: there is fighting going
on right now, right in the
southern part of Russia with
the province right next door
to Chechnya, they’re attacking
even as we talk. There is a
pitched battle going on right
now.
Russ: uh-huh.
Skip: in other words, they
could become the second major
power in the world again.
Tia: again, uh-huh but they’ll
never be as strong as they
were.
Skip: no.
Tia: but they is a battle
going on......
(The tape runs out at that
point)
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