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(Kiri gives us a first-person look at life on Sirius in an economy without money. As the daughter of the president of the planet, we see how people get places to live and the form of government where one couple essentially run a planet. This is the perfect person to share with us what life is like when everyone is at peace and harmony. Another thing revealed in her discussion is that all the Sirians together number about the same as the population of New York City.) 


Kiri: let us say it gets to the situation where I’m desperate for food right? I have clothing right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: I have my engineering skills but supposing they don’t need that engineering skills right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: I have other things that I could trade. I can clean, I’m a passable cook if I really try……

Russ: what about coercive needs that they might need? You couldn’t really trade that could you?

Kiri: exactly, it’s one of those things.

Russ: that’s a real gray area there.

Kiri: uh-huh and it goes through let’s say I have my body, that’s not really selling myself, it’s trading a service…..

Russ: true.

Kiri: for whatever I need.

Russ: right.

Kiri: yeah it’s like Bunny, she’s not a hooker, she’s a dancer….

Russ: right.

Kiri: and she’s a student, she just happens to enjoy making love and having sex. Well I don’t think she’s actually experienced lovemaking much…..

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: she’s had a lot of sex.

Russ: interesting.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: so as a reader of what we've missed on tape basically, this is something that we could use in our future down here…….

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: as a similar example set on Sirius….

Kiri: yes.

Russ: and does that go on throughout all of Ashtar Command?

Kiri: I believe so yes.

Russ: now on the bases themselves……..for example you work on the base…….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: as an engineer.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: therefore your food, your luxury items……

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and other things, you still pay for your luxury items.

Kiri: correct, that comes out of my own revenue.

Russ: right but everything else is all included.

Kiri: correct.

Russ: because you are performing a service.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: apartment and so on.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now what about on Sirius where you have to have a place to live……

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: do you maintain the grounds or…….?

Kiri: yes, you would be maintaining the grounds, painting the buildings…..

Russ: who actually owns the building?

Kiri: the landlord.

Russ: the landlord owns it, how did he get it?

Kiri: well let’s say it’s been in the family for a long time. Let’s take some of our property that we have on Sirius…..

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: the Tanaka family overall. Okay, we have quite a few properties, we have people that live in those. It’s been in our family for centuries, for eons….

Russ: right.

Kiri: right? They maintain the property, they look after it, they live there right? They keep the grounds looking good, they keep the house looking good, they live there.

Russ: so they don’t pay rent?

Kiri: no but by keeping the houses looking good and often they have gardens in the back and they give us any extra that they have.

Russ: okay, well let’s say somebody has property and they die but they leave no heirs….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: what happens to the property?

Kiri: it goes to another family member or if there are no family members right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: it goes into the community property and a person will step forward and say, “I offer my services for a 100 years as psychokinesis or I will build or I will clear or I will farm or from my farm I will give…….”

Russ: I see.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: you bid your services.

Russ: now what about the president?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: the president has their services, they don’t actually own the presidential place they live at.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but they probably come from well.....

Kiri: you don’t understand what the president does do you?

Russ: I haven’t the slightest idea, I mean it can’t be the same thing as our president.

Kiri: no. The president here is supplying a very important service…...

Russ: oh good, I have to know this because I have to meet her and of course I already know your dad.

(Ed. note: this was because of a ceremony I had been invited to on Sirius I would be attending in my astral form)

Kiri: yeah, they supply the service of running the planet. They may have the final say so on what happens. Whatever happens on the planet and it is their final decision, whether or not they’ve got advisors that give them advice etc., it is their final decision. They serve the people, they are responsible to everybody on Sirius. Let us say you lived on Sirius…..

Russ: okay.

Kiri: and you had a problem……

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: and it was a very important problem. You passed it to your regional senator……..regional representative who in turn passes it on to the regional senator who takes it to the overall senator right? Who takes it to the president. Let’s say it’s that important that it could not be resolved….

Russ: okay.

Kiri: let us say that you had a plot of land right? That had a rare flower on it. You are prepared to transport that flower to a very similar location, it’s an environmental thing......

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: right? And none of the people wanted to make a decision, it goes before the president, the president makes a decision yes or no.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: the president is ultimately responsible.

Russ: hmm. All right, so any major industry, let’s say fishing…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: is all controlled by the goods that are produced…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: give you goods in return.

Kiri: in a way yes, it is also governed by something that is very similar to your Environmental Protection Agency. If too much fish is taken, the person is penalized.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: if too little fish is taken, the person is penalized because it becomes overpopulated.

Russ: okay. What about education, how about if you have kids, is it mandatory that they go to school then?

Kiri: no.

Russ: do they pay for it if they go to school?

Kiri: no, education is totally free.

Russ: okay, but they don’t have to go?

Kiri: they don’t have to go, that is your choice…..

Russ: okay.

Kiri: as a parent. Because don’t forget, we don’t get our full memories and everything until we reach 21……ish……

(memories of all their past lives)

Russ: right.

Kiri: normally later than before.

Russ: okay, so basically they might wait till 21 to send them to school?

Kiri: well hopefully they will be fully educated by the time they get that old.

Russ: right, that's what I was thinking.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and school lasts for much longer?

Kiri: however long the person wishes. Take for example Leonedies……

Russ: right.

Kiri: he’s already reading, he’s not even three yet.

Russ: right, I wouldn’t think he'd even need school.

Kiri: he’s going to go to school, he’s going to learn things.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: that is because I wish it to be so and he understands the fact that I wish it to be so but he is learning things.

Russ: right.

Kiri: it is quite normal for a super operant to be reading things equivalent to technical manuals on your planet.

Russ: right.

Kiri: yeah, how to build an engine, how to build a jet engine.

Russ: well schools also teach him interaction with people other than his family.

Kiri: that’s correct, correct. There is a lot more emphasis on that kind of thing than just learning how to read, learning how to do maths, he can do some of that already.

Russ: now can you tell a parent, I mean can a parent tell when a child is born, due to their access to their lives, whether or not that child has the first time on sixth dimension?

Kiri: not really, it’s a little bit different with your own children.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: we will take them to specialists. It’s kind of like because they are my genes and Mark’s genes, we really can't see or I know Mark can’t see that well, it’s very foggy. I see a mixture of lives when I look at Leonedies, I see a mixture of lives when I look at……

Russ: Alex.

Kiri: Alex. When I look at the Cubs, I know.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: but I’m bound not to tell.

Russ: now when you take them to the specialist, does the specialist charge you anything?

Kiri: yes.

Russ: a service?

Kiri: yes.

Russ: okay, what would you do for the specialist?

Kiri: the specialist that I took Alex and Leonedies to wanted a swimsuit.

Russ: oh okay, that makes it pretty easy.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and then you have vast quantities of wine that you can…….

Kiri: that I can also trade.

Russ: work would yeah if you have to.

Kiri: and if he wanted his wife looked at I would’ve obliged.

(Russ starts laughing)

Kiri: she’s a fox.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: I would’ve been delighted to have her in for……instead of just having a holo to work with I would’ve liked her in for a physical……

Russ: okay.

Kiri: so that I could have had her stand there and I would’ve given her the best, best possible fit.

Russ: of course.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: all right.

Kiri: and then when I had Leonedies done, they charged me I think it was two cases of wine and then they gave the two cases of wine back because they couldn’t see.

Russ: they couldn’t see?

Kiri: he was blocking.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: he didn’t want to be seen.

Kiri: that’s right.

Russ: for good reason which we know now.

Kiri: yes. Which at the time raised a whole load of questions on why was he blocking........

Russ: I remember those questions.

Kiri: yeah and it was sort of like well he’s a super operant, super operant’s can do that, they can be very private individuals.

Russ: right.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: but now what makes them specialists, because their psychic skills and clairvoyance is more highly tuned than others?

Kiri: they read past lives better.

Russ: I see.

Kiri: they will sit down and they will talk to the child on a mental level and they will put the child basically into a state of relaxation where the child can be open to be read, to access the area that is blocked, the child does not know.

Russ: oh I see.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but he knew.

Kiri: yeah he knew, Leonedies knew.

Russ: now what about medical skills, are those free for everyone….

Kiri: yes.

Russ: within Ashtar command and so on?

Kiri: yes, unless it’s cosmetic.

Russ: right.

Kiri: let’s say like Tia had, she wanted bigger breasts because she felt a little bit…

Russ: well compared to you and Karra….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: she felt a little bit….

Russ: shortchanged?

Kiri: yes but personally I thought they were very pretty as they were anyway.

Russ: I thought so too.

Kiri: uh-huh but she wanted bigger breasts.

Russ: did she get them?

Kiri: yeah, she took some tablets.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: but that’s a luxury.

Russ: I hadn’t even noticed.

Kiri: well she…..God it was a while ago.

Russ: oh that’s why.

Kiri: it was like four years ago.

Russ: oh okay. So that was a luxury……

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: so she paid for that was some service herself.

Kiri: correct.

Russ: I see, okay.

Kiri: basically what she did was some bookwork if my memory serves right.

Russ: oh, that’s not too bad.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. But other than that, rejuvenation and everything…..

Kiri: rejuvenation is totally free unless you are one of the very, very fortunate ones that has a self-rejuvenation capability.

Russ: oh, not very common I take it.

Kiri: not very common, it’s about one in a million and seeing as we only have a population on the planet of maybe 20 million….

Russ: that’s all your population is on Sirius?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: seems like I thought it was more.

Kiri: well there's more on sister worlds and bases and stuff, we probably have a population of maybe 22, 23 million in total.

Russ: well I went to Alpha Centauri once….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and I saw their prison system there…

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but as I stated then, it was an interesting system of punishment you have…

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: where the person actually punishes themselves.

Kiri: yeah unless they are……they know they’ve done something wrong unless they are that small, very small group that is mentally unbalanced.

Russ: I see. Now is the President of Sirius under the planetary Council?

Kiri: yes.

Russ: so let’s say your…..the president couldn't decide on your special species of flower….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: then it would go before the planetary Council.

Kiri: no, he has to decide.

Russ: oh he has to?

Kiri: he has to. The planetary Council deals with sister worlds, bases and so on.

Russ: they don’t deal with Sirius?

Kiri: no.

Russ: why not? Because that’s what the president's for.

Kiri: that’s correct.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: he reports to them.

Russ: I see.

Kiri: they do not tell him what to do and he cannot tell them what to do.

Russ: hmm, but they’re all on a good friendship basis?

Kiri: uh-huh, he can go to them for advice and they can come to him for advice but in ceremonial, they are the top.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: and there is no president of the Council, there is no president of the planetary Council, they are all equal.

Russ: now don’t super operants come into a special category with all we're talking about with the barter system and everything?

Kiri: yes, yes very much so.

Russ: why? I mean for example, let’s take an example.

Kiri: okay for example, because they had access to all their past lives from the get-go…..

Russ: right.

Kiri: they are exempt from certain services. They have certain rights, the services that they're exempt from are medical unless they so desire to do so. For example, let’s say Alex develops an awesome healing ability…..

Russ: okay.

Kiri: right? He would be expected to become a healer……

Russ: nice.

Kiri: regardless of his interest if he becomes an awesome healer.

Russ: right.

Kiri: right? Let us say Leonedies became an awesome healer, he is exempt.

Russ: because he’s a super operant and he has…..

Kiri: much more important things. Let us say when he reaches adulthood right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: he desires a young lady.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: right? She has to be honest and upfront with him.

Russ: well she has to anyway.

Kiri: yes.

Russ: because he would know otherwise.

Kiri: correct but if she’s ovulating right? And he desires her and she's sort of like, “maybe”, she can’t go maybe, she has to. Because….

Russ: he’s seen all his past lives.

Kiri: he’s seen all his past lives, he knows all her past lives right? And if she’s ovulating, the chances of pregnancy are very good.

Russ: so his genes are worth more than any service he could provide.

Kiri: okay, he is totally unallowed to go into any form of planetary defense service, he is totally not allowed to become a pilot or anything that would endanger his very existence.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: he is not allowed to do anything more than recreational ski, anything that endangers his life.

Russ: it almost sounds like he’s more controlled than you are.

Kiri: oh they’re very controlled. Once a year……..

Russ: is that because he’s a rare resource?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: they’ve got to be increasing with the genetic……

Kiri: oh they are, they are but it’s still a rare resource.

Russ: is it?

Kiri: uh-huh. There’s about one for every……it’s somewhere between a hundred thousand to 200,000.

Russ: what did it use to be?

Kiri: oh God, no it was about 500,000 to 700,000.

Russ: so at what point do you stop the controlling or you don’t have access to that?

Kiri: I don’t know, I don’t know.

Russ: no idea.

Kiri: now this is a hard one for me to figure out, well actually it’s not hard for me to figure out but it’s hard for me to totally understand. He will have to until he is incapable once a year leave a sperm sample.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: he has to give twice a year blood and tissue.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: he has to report in once every six months for a full physical checkup, physical and mental because of the very nature of super operants the fact that they sometimes implode.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: normally first-time super operants implode.

Russ: right.

Kiri: but all super operants have to go for mental checkups.

Russ: even though what we know about Leonedies?

(Leonedies is an eighth dimensional being in a sixth dimensional body that is three-years-old)

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: well can you make an exemption? No.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: and Leonedies will be the first to tell you when he’s being reasonable that you don’t make exemptions.

Russ: right.

Kiri: so you see the importance of the super operants and the reason why they are very controlled?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: they are not allowed to join with their twins, if their twins are super operants and they have the desire to make love with them, they cannot do that.

Russ: okay, big question why?

Kiri: because of the conflicting genes, they’re too close. Even if the gene pool in the family is totally clean in both families and has been for 10,000 years, they cannot.

Russ: but gene manipulation can be controlled? But for super operants it’s a different story.

Kiri: correct however, if they take precautions they can.

Russ: right.

Kiri: but it's basically you go to the official people, you get the precaution, you take the tablet, you have the shot……

Russ: and that’s why we’re having this discussion.

Kiri: hmm?

Russ: because of Leonedies.

Kiri: correct.

Russ: and the situation he’s in.

Kiri: correct.

Russ: right.

Kiri: yes (laughs), you’re leaking.

Russ: thank you.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, so basically the whole society is structured but at the same time it’s structured in a very way that allows for more rights than less rights…..

Kiri: correct.

Russ: unless you’re a super operant.

Kiri: correct, super operants basically have no rights.

Russ: right.

Kiri: which is very, very sad.

Russ: does anybody.......does the super operants mind?

Kiri: no, they’re all very understanding about it. Now there is one thing that is I think you’ll find very hard to understand........

Russ: okay.

Kiri: but it goes with the importance of the super operants. If you are in a situation whether it’s either you or the super operant is going to die, you die........

Russ: right.

Kiri: regardless, you give your life up for the super operant. It was designed that way so that selfishness does not come into it. It doesn’t matter how important you are……let’s say my father for example and Leonedies were stranded on a boat in the middle of the ocean right?

Russ uh-huh.

Kiri: and they have no food. Now he’s the President……

Russ: right.

Kiri: he is expected to give up his life so that Leonedies could live. However, now this is the hard part is that Leonedies would have to take over his position regardless of his age and do those duties. He would be expected to access the president’s past lives, access his current resting status and get all the information and basically let his body become a host until the service is over.

Russ: and people are taught this from a very early age?

Kiri: correct.

Russ: that super operants are to be kept safe and….

Kiri: uh-huh, protected.

Russ: you sacrifice yourself for them. Doesn’t this give people in your society this sort of separate view of super operants?

Kiri: yes, they are very separate and they’re pitied because they are so controlled.

Russ: so even though you have to give your life up for this guy….

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you pity them?

Kiri: well would you like your private life totally infringed upon, dictating where you can and cannot go, what you can and cannot do?

Russ: no, of course not.

Kiri: that’s what happens to super operants.

Russ: does it change when you get up in the higher dimensions?

Kiri: yes totally, this is only on Sirius because we are…..have so few of them.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: I mean we probably have no more than maybe two or 3,000 on Sirius and sister worlds and on all the other bases, pure blood Sirians that are super operants.

Russ: wow.

Kiri: probably about 10 times that number of sub-super operant’s but not all sub-super operants end up being super operants in their next life. In fact a lot of sub-super operants, especially the more tweaky ones, have been sub-super operants before and a few of them have actually been super operants that have imploded on themselves. See it’s very hard to become a super operant.

Russ: yeah I guess so.