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(Karra relates her trip to Sirius to us and how when as a guest speaker at a formal dinner she had to fend off a room of telepaths trying to ask her questions with her mental shielding. We get some details on how much fun the kids had on the trip. She shares how at a seminar on word manipulation she found the instructional had been written by her sister including one lesson of the seminar that could be used here in the third dimension.) 

Russ: trip to Sirius, how was it?

Karra: busy, busy.

Russ: what did your dad and yourself do?

Karra: we spent a lot of time in Senate meetings…..

Russ: hmm.

Karra: I had to attend a ambassador's seminar which was a two-day affair, I had to attend a formal inauguration of a finance minister I think you would say for Alpha Centauri, I had to attend a inauguration for a new senator, I attended an alumni’s banquet so I’ve had a pretty busy two weeks.

Russ: ahh, lucky you don’t actually live on Sirius, imagine what you’d have to go through there?

Karra: I was also a guest speaker as well for a……

Russ: were you?

Karra: uh-huh, for a formal dinner.

Russ: excellent, excellent, how'd that go? A little nervous?

Karra: a lot of people asking a lot of questions, lot of them very well-thought-out and articulated.

Russ: hmm, so did you do okay?

Karra: not as well as I would like, I don’t like addressing 600 individuals and all of them asking questions and trying to probe me and get information from me, my hands were shaking severely. I could’ve done with a cold shower.

Russ: oh my God.

Karra: I mean I was so hot and clammy, my mind was full and there’s all these thoughts coming at me and they’re trying to bombard me with thoughts and everything and I did not enjoy it.

Russ: how were your shields holding up?

Karra: towards the end very shaky.

Russ: oh well, sounds like an exciting time anyway.

Karra: (sighs) it was work, a lot of work.

Russ: did you get to see some of the races at all?

Karra: yes I did actually, I watched them from the president’s booth, not THE president but the president of the race committee overall of all the tri-bases. They elected a overall president and it’s his job to see and facilitate everything and make sure everything is working according to plans, "children, behave yourselves." Our children enjoyed themselves.

Russ: I was going to ask that also, how's the twins and Klarra like it?

Karra: oh they loved it, they were sledding like crazy on the sledding hills and snowball fights and they finally got their revenge on Klarra.

Russ: oh what happened?

Karra: they buried her.

(Russ laughs)

Russ: I’m sure she loved that.

Karra: well it was kind of her fault. She wanted a nice little pit dug for herself so she could sit in a sun trap.

Russ: oh.

Karra: so they excavated one for her and then they filled it in while she was in there.

Russ: oh that’s good.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: excellent, so they enjoyed Sirius then?

Karra: oh yes, they enjoyed it tremendously.

Russ: and the twins got to appreciate the family home and all?

Karra: uh-huh, they had an absolutely wonderful time.

Russ: oh good, so they got to meet Gonzo…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: ahh.

Karra: and they got to meet their nephews or their cousins rather and they had an absolutely wonderful time. They're rolling around in the back garden, hiking up the hills into the snow and just having an absolute wonderful time.

Russ: sounds neat.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: excellent.

Karra: yeah, left them there for a couple of days and they just loved it.

Russ: oh, while you were up in the ambassador’s houses?

Karra: yes unfortunately.

Russ: yeah.

Karra: I wish I had as much fun as they did.

Russ: so your dad wasn’t there so Gonzo took care of them?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: oh, excellent.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: hmm, kind of like being on vacation then.

Karra: yes, yes and Gonzo went to the races, saw her sister…..

Russ: excellent, excellent.

Karra: uh-huh. Okay, what else? Whilst I was at one of the seminars, I took a class on manipulation of words.

Russ: oh excellent.

Karra: uh-huh, I thought it was time that I learned how to use double meanings, double entendres and manipulations to lead people down an avenue that I wish.

Russ: comes with the territory.

Karra: oh yes it does. Actually it was very interesting. I’m reading an instructional lesson and I’m practicing it and I’m reading it and I’ve read it like three times before it suddenly dawned on me, guess who wrote the little lesson?

Russ: your dad? Who?

Karra: I’m sorry, she’s sitting next to me.

Russ: oh, Kiri.

Karra: drinking tea. Uh-huh, she wrote it.

Russ: I’ll be danged.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: well maybe you’ll pass some of that off on me in the lessons that you get every once in a while and I’ll…..

Karra: actually it’s quite easy, it’s quite easy. You map out certain key phrases and when the conversation starts to steer away from the key phrases, from the road that you want, mention the key phrases or weave in the key phrases into the conversation.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: so even though it’s not a straight, linear conversation and it goes from side to side and so on, it heads to the goal and objective that you want. One is, my feelings, “my feelings on this situation are……” and you go on. For example let’s say we have a situation, you’re having a problem with your boss and you're discussing computers and upgrading to NT on the back computers that handle the business.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay, now he is saying to stick with the current version, what's it 4.0 NT?

Russ: yeah.

Karra: okay, and you want to as soon as NT 2000 comes out, you want introduce that. Okay the conversation goes something like this, ‘well, from what I’ve read on NT 2000, it has the ability to interface in a manner that would be beneficial and not rewrite the programs in such a way that it would be a matter of learning a new system.” His answer would be, “yes but the old system is a stable, tried and used format and it is a system that is well-used and that we are all comfortable with.” You would answer, “that is true but by stagnating…..” key phrase…….”stagnating, then we do not become competitive with our competitors and we do not stay on the cutting edge.” End of key phrase. You see?

Russ: yeah.

Karra: that by making it a challenge and heading towards the objective, you are manipulating the conversation in a way........

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: so you see?

Russ: I see.

Karra: you take the person, you take the information that you have on the person, what kind of person they are and you lay the challenge.

Russ: interesting.

Karra: uh-huh. Stop biting your nails, you’re not Sananda.

Russ: sorry. Why would Sananda bite his nails?

Karra: it’s a joke.

Russ: oh.

Karra: what kind of nails did Sananda have?

Russ: oh, ha ha ha.