(We get an opinion
from Omal on Sarah's outlook on life
before he explains how and why most abductions
happen. We also discuss what happens during
them, who is doing them and how people can be
tricked into accepting the consequences happily.)
Omal:
greetings and
felicitations.
Greetings Russ,
greetings Karen.
Karen: greetings.
Russ: greetings Omal.
Omal: okay, let's get
down to answering your
questions concerning
this matter that you
wish addressed.
Russ: the Zeta's yeah.
Omal: uh-huh. First of
all I would like to
say that I think the
letter from Sarah is
self-explanatory and
dovetails nicely with
this upcoming subject
and topic of
discussion.
Russ: oh I agree
definitely. It's all
going under the same
updates.
Omal: correct. It
seems that she holds
no malice towards
them.
Russ: no, she sees it
from a higher
perspective of being
part of the path that
she's chosen.
Omal: uh-huh, I see it
that she has had a
good influence.
Russ: uh-huh. I mean
there's people down
here on earth who go
through similar
things, auto accidents
that paralyze them
permanently, shorten
their lives......
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: or whatever or
make them a living
hell.
Karen: and the other
ones they go through
more or less the same
thing, you can't
figure out where it's
coming from and people
are calling them nuts.
Russ: and they don't
get half as much
insight and growth as
she got.
Omal: no she had as
she put it, a
wonderful opportunity
to learn and learn she
has.
Russ: agreed.
Omal: from what I've
heard, she is
developing into a
sixth dimensional
young lady. There is
nothing that we can do
for her. We can't
rejuvenate her as much
as we would like to.
We can't tamper with
her genetic material
because as she said,
there is so little of
her left in the
genetic essence. It
has given hours or
rather should I say
months of aggravation
to Kornas who has
tried to puzzle over
this but let us
address your
questions.
Russ: okay. Alright I
assume you got a
report on last night's
Zeta Reticuli
revelations.
Omal: yes we did.
Russ: okay, so we're
going to deal with
that at the present.
Now, I'm going to
start from........it's
one through 20 pages
but I've got some
parts highlighted here
I just want to go over
with you real quickly.
Omal: okay let us
proceed. It would be
difficult to answer
all the questions if
you were ask from that
that you have in your
mind so we will take
the ones that you
select that you feel
are important.
Russ: alright. Okay,
"the Zeta's have been
continuing with
projects by our own
allowance. They've
made some discoveries,
they're learning, they
are growing and part
of their consciousness
wants to just share
the discoveries with
the people being
channeled to." And the
question I've got is,
supposedly this
allowance that we give
them is all
subconscious to let
them in to tamper with
our bodies and work
their experiments so
they can learn. What
of this?
Omal: it is trickery
and the way it is done
is very cleverly. Let
me put it this way to
you. Russ, would you
like to help us
develop a higher
evolutionary mind on
your planet?
Russ: of course.
Omal: would you let us
do it our way so that
you can benefit in
such a way that your
race will grow at a
rapid accelerated rate
and have all the
lessons that are
necessary to learn in
that accelerated time?
Russ: no, I'd rather
learn on our own pace
actually but with
insight from yourself
is what I would but
knowing where this
question is leading,
yeah I would say yes.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: not
knowing......if I
didn't know where it
was leading to.
Omal: would you let us
use the material from
you that would be able
to create a group of
individuals that would
be able to watch over
and protect you?
Russ: well that's a
tough one, because you
already have.
(The visits Mark and I
had made to Kornas for
genetic samples)
Omal: yes but that has
been with full
knowledge.
Russ: absolutely,
right. So, without
full knowledge, I'd
have to have my
reservations
personally........consciously.
Omal: Karen, would you
let us use your
genetic material,
whatever is necessary,
for us to create a
race of guardians to
protect you from
hostile aliens?
Karen: I don't know,
well knowing who you
guys are yeah, but if
I didn't know, no. I
don't think I'd want
any parts of my body
missing, I've already
got parts of my body
missing.
Omal: oh, we would not
take anything that
would be needed, we
would only use
material that you have
to spare.
Russ: like ovum.
Karen: oh, reproducing
a mess of Karen's,
it's like no I don't
think......I don't
know.
Omal: no, Russ spoiled
that actually.
Karen: I don't know if
I.........well he's
got a couple kids up
there.
Omal: uh-huh.
Karen: and I've got
mine down here and I
know of three and no,
I don't think I'd want
a whole mess of them I
didn't know about
floating around no.
Omal: no but Russ
spoiled the question.
Russ, there was a
punishment for that.
Karen: should I bite
him?
Omal: after the
channeling session, 20
press ups please.
Russ: my shoulder's
really killing me
Omal.
Omal: it is the lesson
and thank you for
spoiling my avenue
that I was exploring
but you see where I
was going?
Russ: right.
Omal: that the way
that those were
worded, you
voluntarily,
consciously gave your
consent up until the
last question.
Karen: yeah.
Omal: if Russ hadn't
of said borrowing
ovum's or using
ovum's, would you have
consented?
Karen: no, no because
I mean if you guys are
going to create
guardians to watch
over me, you should
have the guardians
there already.
Omal: true, true but
you see what is
happening, the answer
most people would give
is yes to protect your
race. And I did not
tell you everything, I
led you in an avenue
that is easy for you
to fall into that
saying yes, yes, yes,
I did not tell you
what we intended to do
with those materials.
I did not tell you how
we wished to proceed,
I just asked you would
it be possible, very
nicely as well I might
add but I asked the
questions in such a
way that I was using
half-lies,
half-truths.
Karen: lying by
omission.
Omal: correct. So you
see where their
questions head and how
they manipulate. I was
not being particularly
clever in the way that
I was wording them. I
could word it totally
different and sucker
you right in, it is
easy to do.
Karen: I think any any
being could do that, I
mean you can actually
come through and just
say that, "hey we're a
dying planet because
the women don't have
any ovum, do you have
any to spare?"
Omal: exactly.
Karen: and any person
with kids would say,
"sure, no problem."
Omal: uh-huh exactly.
So there are different
ways of doing it and
this is what they've
done. Next question
please.
Russ: okay, "there's
apparently various
groups of Zeta's
spread out between
three different
categories. Straight
Zeta's which is they
consciously exist
within the outer
perimeters of fourth
density reality
therefore they are
just barely physical,
mostly plasmic in
nature. Then there is
the altered Zeta's
which would be a
straight Zeta altered
physically or in their
consciousness to allow
them to interact with
you on a physical
plane or a type of
quasi-physical reality
one moment, one
moment. Category three
would be a hybrid,
spans many different
offshoots. The idea
you call negatively
oriented groups are
not necessarily placed
within these
categories we've
outlined though they
can be for the purpose
of illustration." Now
the question is, with
the first two groups,
they can work with the
person in their dream
state. Does this also
includes abductions?
Omal: yes, you can
take somebody
physically in their
dream state. For
example, Mark, Kiri
could quite easily
talk to somebody and
have them stand up and
follow them by using
coercion when they're
asleep, that is very
easy to do.
Russ: hmmm.
Omal: you wake them up
to a state where
they're still asleep
but their mind is now
conscious and easy to
manipulate. Kiri is
saying that is one of
the things that is
totally forbidden to
do.
Russ: okay. Now with
that same sentence, it
makes the subject that
there are good Zeta's
and of course negative
Zeta's.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: the good Zeta's
are for example the 30
individuals sitting in
a ship within the
atmosphere of the
planet of the people
that are being
channeled to here.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: is there good
Zeta's?
Omal: yes there are
just as there are good
humans and bad humans.
Russ: hmmm.
Omal: they suffer from
the problem of they
cannot differentiate
between what is
positive and negative
in how they deal with
people. They assume
like most intelligent
races that a lower
intelligence will see
it from their point of
view. Whether their
point of view is
flawed or not is
besides the point,
their intentions are
as they see them good.
The fact they do not
give you full
information and access
to that information
seems to be irrelevant
for your own good from
their point of view.
Russ: hmm, okay. All
right, are you on a
time schedule that's
real tight tonight?
Omal: I am a little.
Russ: all right, I'll
try to rush through
the worst of this
then. Okay.......
Omal: oops.... too
slow.
Russ: one of the
questions asked was if
humanoids were to take
up travel in outer
space, what changes
would happen to their
bodies and the answer
was, "the fact that
there would be a
change in our
connection to the time
continuum which would
allow our DNA
structure to unlock
from the template of
the planet Earth time
continuum to allow
more freedom within
the consciousness to
allow for other types
of travel and
expansion once you
leave your solar
system." Now I don't
remember that ever
having to happen
but...
Omal: no, no, it
doesn't quite work
like that. They are
correct and they are
lying, well not lying,
they are tinting the
truth. What happens
when individuals leave
a planet is the faster
that they approach the
speed of light, time
slows down externally
for them relative to
how fast they are
traveling. Let us say
they are traveling at
half-light speed which
would make it about
eight years to get to
your neighboring star.
Okay, light travels at
from there four years
approximately to your
planet. Traveling at
half-light speed means
that it would take you
relatively inside the
ship only eight years
to get there however
outside a serious
amount of time would
have elapsed. Maybe
50 to a 100
years because you have
approached the half
the speed of light
which means that time
would speed up
externally whereas
internally it would
slow down but you
would not notice the
change that it has
slowed down. Let us
say you travel faster
than the speed of
light. Now, time
externally would
really accelerate. The
fact that you would
arrive on the planet
let us say at twice
the speed of light
means that only two
years have elapsed for
you but in actual
fact, four years has
elapsed externally on
your home planet. I
know there is a
difference in the
figures here. This is
because you would be
seeing things four
years in the past if
you were to look back.
You take the four
years and multiply it
by the speed so that
would be 12 years. 12
years into your future
on a planet orbiting
Alpha Centauri, means
that you would be
looking back 12 years
to return back to your
point of origin. You
would be the 12 years
into the future plus
the return time which
would make it 24 but
traveling at half the
speed of light, that
would be doubled.
Russ: hmmm.
Omal: the faster you
travel, the less time
would have been
elapsed.
Russ: thank you.
Alright, another
question that I've
heard before and this
concerns everything
that we're talking
about so far, what is
the purpose and
mission of the Zeta
contact? "And the idea
they would like to
stress most is they
are teaching us about
fear. That they are in
a sense representing
to us the idea of
unity or as we
represent to them, the
idea of individuality
and neither of us are
victims of the other,
we are all
co-creator's in what
is going on." Now in
that sense, it makes
it sound as though our
individuality is a
negative.
Omal: it is not.
Russ: as opposed to
their Borg-like
mentality.
Omal: it is not. Both
are not. Does not a
football team function
as one?
Russ: uh-huh.
Omal: but yet the
individuals on that
team make it function
as one. Individual
players, let us select
somebody like Boswell
become heroes but
without him, the team
would not function as
well but without him,
the team would
continue and does
continue functioning.
Let us take another
individual, let us
take Joe Montana. When
he was with the 49ers,
the team functioned
wonderfully. He left
the team and went to
the Kansas City team.
What happened the
49ers?
Karen: they dropped
but they survived.
Russ: yeah, they did
great last season,
better than Kansas
City.
Omal: correct. So, the
individual does not
make a team, he is a
team player. Without
him the team will
carry on functioning,
not as well until it
recovers, but it will
continue functioning.
So to say that acting
in a group-like
consciousness is good
is wrong but it is
also right. It depends
on how the group
interacts. Whether or
not it becomes a unit
as one or reacts as a
group of individuals
acting as one,
individual choice
could be good and bad.
An individual that
makes a bad call but
if it is carried out
well, may in actual
fact turn out to be
positive so both
behaviors are very
necessary. The
development of pure
one consciousness is a
negative in that you
have no free will to
do as you wish and
your interaction is no
longer valid in how
the group reacts. You
react as the group
wishes you to to a
certain situation.
Certainly it has more
different options to
explore but it has to
be achieved quickly so
therefore one
individual will
oversee another
individual in the
consciousness but
individuality on its
own can be very
dangerous if it is not
used correctly in a
group environment. A
group of individuals
that work individually
may end up hurting
each other. It is
teamwork with
individual ways of
behavior that seem to
work best.
Russ: okay. Now this
deals with the
abductions and the
fact that the Zeta
Reticuli have bred out
of themselves that
which we call emotion
and the purpose of the
abductions is that
they can insert probes
and then retract them
at later times which
have stored up
neurochemical
secretions that they
figure they can put
into themselves to
re-bring in emotions
into their race again.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: now this is an
act that we attribute
to the negative Zeta's
as well as apparently
the positives who
perfectly say, "let's
go along with this."
Omal: okay, extracting
information can be
useful but I refer you
to the answer I gave
right at the start.
That is the best way
to explain it.
Russ: okay. Karen, do
you have any questions
before I go on? I've
taken up all of them.
Karen: I don't think
you've gotten to the
one that I wanted to
ask.
Russ: oh........I have
one on sexual
behavior.
Karen: that's not the
one I wanted to ask
(chuckles).
Russ: okay, now one of
the things that came
up here we had a lot
of problems with was,
"for as for the amount
of interaction we will
have with you
sexually, that will be
up to agreements
between you as an
individual and us as a
group." So again we
come to as in your
first explanation that
they agree to the
sexual interactions
but I cannot see the
purpose of them
because later on we
see that they are
using them to breed a
hybrid race that don't
actually reach
maturity, they die off
prior to that and they
cannot figure out why.
Omal: it is obvious
and very easy to
understand why these
offspring, which is a
bad term, they might
as well say lab
animals die off. It is
because they use them
in such a way that
their life expectancy
is basically drained
from them. The
experiments that they
run on them drain out
their existence. If
you insert needles and
extract hormones and
chemicals and blood
and tissue and
secretions, you're
draining the lifeform.
A certain amount can
be withstood but
continuous tapping in
and draining drains
the life flow and the
life energy. It is
hard to understand
that these Zeta's do
not understand that by
doing this, they
themselves are causing
the problem that they
can't understand.
Russ: hmm, okay. One
part that brought up
about this was the
fact that because
there was no love that
was interacted between
the Zeta's and the
children and that the
only love that came
was from adults that
they had abducted and
brought to the ship to
give the children
love.
Omal: uh-huh, that is
quite correct but by
abducting the
individuals even
though they may put on
a front of being happy
and cheerful, they are
not. The children
sense this and
therefore do not
actually take the
pseudo-love that is
being given. Even
though as was said
last night, some love
is better than no
love, the children,
because of their
environment, do not
trust these
individuals. It is
necessary for the
children to bond with
individuals. For
example, Karen's
children, they have
grown well and are
happy because they
have bonded with
individuals on an
individual one-on-one
basis. If for example
let us take
Anna-Marie, if Karen,
Karen's mother, the
person that was the
father were all linked
together as a group
consciousness, then
Anna-Marie would have
been very confused in
the fact of was she
talking to her
grandmother, her
mother or her father?
So therefore a
distrust would
develop. Even though
it may be Karen she is
facing or Karen's
mother or her father,
she would not be sure
if she was dealing
with her father, or
Karen or her
grandmother.
Russ: hmm, well on the
same note, one of the
people are asking
questions asked the
question that she
remembered seeing a
six-year-old child on
the ship and she was
with two people. She
had scars on her face
and she bent down to
acknowledge her, it
was very important for
her to love that
child. They said that
she had been sick and
I said, "I didn't care
and wanted to kiss
her". And she kissed
all the scars on her
face and I felt a love
for her and then she
asked if that was her
child. And the answer
was that, "your
emotion will answer
the question for you,
trust those emotions."
And then she says
that, "if you can send
her love I would be
grateful" and they
say, "you will have an
option to see her
again."
Omal: again, I refer
you to the question
that was just stated
or the answer I just
said. To that I would
like to add the fact
that they were using
the child in a
carefully orchestrated
situation as a bait to
get this person back
up so that she could
be used and
manipulated again.
Whether the child is
hers or not is
irrelevant, the fact
that it could be her
child makes it even
more tricky and
devious the way that
they're behaving.
They're using the
carrot method to get a
response and to get
material. The natural
instinct of mothers
and fathers to protect
things that they
perceive as their
offspring is a very
strong and powerful
tool that will make
them do very strange
things even to the
point of laying down
their own lives for
their offspring. It is
not just a human
emotion. If you were
to threaten the
feline's kittens
upstairs, she would
fight to the death to
protect them.
Russ: hmm, scary. Well
one of my last
questions then is they
claim to be living
upon the fourth and
fifth dimensions,
nothing about the
sixth.
Omal: it is impossible
to live in time. It is
very hard to live in
the fifth dimension.
It can be done if you
use energy fields to
manipulate and
maintain a safe
environment, a stable
environment but
without those aides it
is impossible. We live
in the fifth dimension
in a sixth dimensional
workspace, in essence
we live in the fifth
dimension. We use
gravitational energy
to create a stable
environment that does
not give us the
serious headaches that
you would expect in a
less technologically
evolved civilization.
As has been stated in
the past, you could
put many cases into a
matchbox, many cases
of wine......
Russ: uh-huh.
Omal: but they may all
explode out as the
fifth dimensional
properties change
within the matchbox.
Russ: okay. Well
that's all the
questions on that
matter, if there's
anything else you
would like to add
though, I'd be happy
to add it on to the
webpage.
Omal: yes, let us
answer Karen's
question.
Russ: all right.
Karen: how do you know
it wasn't asked? It
wasn't, okay fine, I
just thought I'd ask.
Omal: it was
self-evident that it
was not.
Karen: well they said
if they can only take
you if you volunteer
yourself.
Omal: uh-huh.
Karen: now that means
to say that these
abductions are
voluntary or are they
not voluntary?
Omal: I refer you to
the answer I gave at
the start.
Karen: well, it's
trickery.
Omal: exactly.
Karen: but they're
still saying that
every time they probe
you and stuff like
that they have
been.......they ask
your permission first
regardless of the
questions they give
you.
Omal: correct.
Karen: but still, is
it voluntary? Are they
really taking these
people voluntary or
are these people just
being taken period?
Omal: these people
have been tricked into
giving voluntary
consent.
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