(What starts as a
dissertation on time and the fourth
dimension becomes a round table on quantum
physics which quickly gets as deep as Omal
has ever gotten on the subject. He gets into
the warping of time where black holes are
concerned and describes for us what happens
once you pass over the event horizon all the
way to what comes out on the other side of
the hole.)
Russ: now Omal, in
my various trips with
hallucinogenic materials.....
Omal:
uh-huh.
Russ: I have come
across similar experiences where
maybe it’s not all of that but
it’s a portion of that that you
see all at once.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: is this kind
of closing in on that gap a
little bit when I did that?
Omal: it is
glimpsing what is possible, what
time really is.
Russ: oh okay.
Omal: it is a
mistake to say time is linear.
Yes it is in an essence, one
thing does follow another in
normal third dimensional space,
your space. However, in fourth
dimensional space or time it
does not. It is much
like……..okay it is about to get
very deep and heavy. I think
probably few people will
understand it that don’t have a
grasp of quantum physics and I
believe that is one of Mark’s
favorite subjects is it not?
Russ: it is.
Omal: okay for the
benefit of Mark. Okay, the
nearest that can be experienced
in normal time is at the event
horizon. Now the event horizon
is that point as you approach
the speed of light in normal
space. If I am boring you let me
know.
Linda M: (yawns)
I’m sorry.
Omal: that is all
right. In normal space, as you
approach the speed of light,
time slows down. As you approach
the event horizon which is the
speed of light, time stops
although for the observer
outside of the object
approaching the speed of light,
time runs at a normal rate. The
change is not perceived, it just
looks like it’s moving very
fast. For the observer inside
the object as it approaches the
speed of light time slows down
however the observer, because he
is within this field, does not
notice either. As the
speed of light approaches, it is
noticed externally that the
object is moving farther away at
a higher speed. Internally,
again it is not noticed. When
the speed of light is reached,
time stops. If the observer
within the object was to look
back at a clock that he was
watching as he approached the
speed of light, the hands would
stand still. This is simple
quantum physics. Where it starts
to become a little bit
convoluted is at the point where
you exceed the speed of light.
Now an analogy was used where an
individual is at the speed of
light, the
speed of light being an absolute
and it is an absolute inside
normal space, it fluctuates but
the speed of light is an
absolute. If the individual was
to get up and watching the
clock, walk backwards away from
the clock that is appearing to
be stationary, that individual
would be traveling faster than
the speed of light but that is
not so. He is traveling at a
normal walking pace that he
would be traveling in normal
space because the vessel, even
though it has approached the
speed of light, inside it it is
normal space. The person would
have to accelerate to the speed
of light again to be traveling
at the speed of light but the
object that he is within is
traveling at the speed of light.
Now, the equation E equals MC squared
is a mathematical equation that
is correct in essence. E equals
energy or energy times mass
times the speed of light which
means as you accelerate, you
need more energy which is taken
from the mass. So the more mass
that you have, the faster and
closer you can approach the
speed of light, interesting. As
you approach the speed of light,
you need more mass to turn into
energy. In its current formula,
there is not enough mass within
your galaxy to achieve that
speed of light. So traveling
outside normal space is how you
travel faster than the speed of
light but you do not need to
travel faster than the speed of
light outside of normal space.
Okay, do you understand Russ?
Russ: not a single
word of it but this does explain
the movie "Contact" a little
better though.
Omal: okay.
However, having reached the
point of singularity or the
event horizon sorry, okay you
pass over the point of the event
horizon. You head into a thing
called singularity which is
infinite, infinite smallness.
The gravitational pull becomes
so intense that everything is
compressed into tiny, tiny
unperceivable amounts. So
therefore the person withinside
the object traveling at the
speed of light ceases to
function, ceases to exist.
However, what remains escapes as
radiation back into the galaxy.
Now, this has
been theorized, a gravitational
black hole which is what I’ve
just described is the jump over
the event horizon and a singularity
is a black hole. As a black
hole increases in mass, it pulls
in more matter and energy and
more light. As it becomes so
massive, the gravitational pull
weakens. However,
at the point of singularity,the
gravitational field is just as
intense. It is more like a steep-sided
hole as opposed to a gently
sloping hole. You can sit on the
top of a gentle or a massive
black hole at the point of the
event horizon and not be pulled
in. On a small black hole, which
may be the size of a marble but
yet has the mass of your entire
galaxy, will have a far greater
pull than a black hole that has
the mass of two
galaxies, two large galaxies
might I add. This is because of
the intense nature of the pull
of the black hole. Okay here
endeth the dissertation on...
Russ: quantum
physics.
Omal: basic quantum
physics.
Russ: basic quantum
physics. I’ll put that on the
web. Okay so in "Contact" where
she gets dropped through that
speed of light achieving thing,
she’s actually reaching a point
of event horizon?
Omal: no, because
there is no return over the
event horizon.
Russ: oh there
isn’t?
Omal: no, having
achieved the event horizon, you
are crushed out of existence.
Russ: ahhh.
Omal: also the
formula E equals MC squared
states quite clearly that there
is not enough mass in your
galaxy to do that. For the young
lady in "Contact" to travel the
distance that she supposedly
did, she would have to travel
outside of normal space.
Russ: and
theoretically she wasn’t.
Omal: that is their
theory.
Russ: right but I
guess she was, she
was out of normal space for that
time period she was within the
circling wheels.
Omal: correct. In
your entertainment "Star Trek"….
Russ: uh-huh.
Omal: they have the
right idea, warping space.
Russ: where you’re
ignoring normal space.
Omal: correct.
Russ: I see.
Omal: however the
perception of stars shooting by
is a suggestion of traveling at
the speed or greater than the
speed of light. As I’ve just
stated, that is not so.
Russ: actually
you’d be closer to the movie
"Dune".
Omal: yes correct.
Russ: where they're
actually…
Omal: folding…..
Russ: taking and folding
space and appearing on the point
where they want to go.
Omal: correct.
Russ: which still
confuses me.
Omal: that is more
closer to reality than is the
traveling at a greater speed
than light, that is impossible.
Russ: hmm, the
folding of space?
Omal: folding of
space, bending, warping,
whatever you wish to call it.
Russ: interesting.
Omal: when you do
that, you travel outside of
normal space.
Russ: okay, hmm. So
we’re approaching anything
like…..there’s no way for us to
approach the speed of light…..
Omal: no.
Russ: until we're
able to actually warp space.
Omal: correct.
Russ: okay.
Omal: and then you
don’t need to approach the speed
of light.
Russ: hmm, I'll
have to
go watch that movie "First
Contact" where Zefram, whatever
his name is (Zefram Cochrane)
breaks the…..first makes warp
speed.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: I forgot how
they did that in that.
Omal: I have not
seen it, I can speculate and
tell you
how to do it but then….
Russ: yeah right.
Omal: I would be
breaking my own rules.
Russ: which
wouldn't quite be kosher.
Omal: correct.
Russ: right.
Omal: but as just
been stated, how do I know that
you are not the inventor of a
device to warp and bend space?
Russ: yeah good
point.
Omal: or if the
gentleman…..the older gentleman
that is normally here Skip, if
he is not the person that is
destined to be the one.
Russ: yeah if
you’re going to break the news,
wait until he gets here.
Omal: I don’t think
he would understand, he does not
have the background on your
earth and he doesn’t have the
access to the memories.
Russ: right,
interesting though. Okay, well
that explains a lot about that
but.......
Omal: I think I
might’ve bored the young lady a
little.
Russ: well that’s
necessary sometimes for the
educational lessons to come
through.
Omal: thank you.
Russ: I mean it is
something that we are working on
achieving for the whole planet.
Omal: eventually
yes.
Russ: eventually.
Omal: but it is a
very basic explanation on
quantum physics.
Russ: okay.
Omal: if you wish
for me to get more technical,
you might as well get up and
wander off as I would be getting
down to mathematical equations.
Russ: well we
would’ve lost half the audience
on the webpage at that point
anyway.
Omal: I think we
might’ve lost half already when
I started talking about
singularities and event horizons
and…..
Russ: yeah they're
going to read this point and go,
"what?" But that’s all right,
that’s the whole point of doing
it so some people can understand
and figure it out right away and
say, “that makes a lot of
sense.”
Omal: uh-huh. I
hope I have explained it simply.
Russ: well for some
people I’m sure it was first
grade. For me, a bit over my
head.
Omal: I do
apologize.
Russ: oh that’s all
right, I expect that.
Omal: have you been
in on discussions when Mark
starts theorizing and
speculating?
Russ: no, no not
really. Luckily he tries to
avoid those when I’m around.
Omal: I have heard
from Kiri that he does get very,
very deep.
Russ: I’ll take
your word for it.
Omal: Kiri is
whispering that he had a very
interesting discussion with a
gentleman that he works with
that was nothing but numbers and
figures on a chalkboard.
Russ: well that’s
another one that would be over
my head. I’m never good with
numbers and figures. Anyway,
thank you for that lesson, it
was very educational.
Omal: you’re
welcome.
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