(Omal talks about finding
what makes one happy and working with that so when
things do go bad you can stay positive. We look at
conditions where someone knows only happiness or
just sadness but it is determined in the end you
don’t actually have to know both.)
Omal:
greetings and felicitations, greetings
Skip, greetings Russ.
Russ: greetings Omal.
Skip: good evening Omal.
Omal: and how is everyone functioning?
Russ: excellent.
Skip: excellent, great and getting
better.
Omal: that is good. Congratulations
Skip.
Skip: oh thank you sir, I appreciate
that.
Omal: you are welcome. And how does it
feel to be no longer a single man?
Skip: very, very, nice.
Omal: that is good. Okay, let me
continue with Kiri’s comments and Russ
you were good to pick up on the
contradiction, I was going to bring
that up but it is not necessary. What
Kiri has decided to open up is an
interesting learning experience which
is something that unfortunately is
frequently neglected is the happiness
of oneself with oneself.
Skip: uh-huh.
Omal: the understanding that to be in
harmony with yourself means that you
are in harmony with everything and
Kiri has somewhat jumped around the
edges of dealing with focusing in on
achieving that happiness first before
expanding out. And it is not a long,
drawn out, protracted, self-defeating
purpose but a purpose that you focus
within yourself so that you can become
contented with who you are. And it is
a short process that first of all you
have to accept who you are, not as
Kiri put it some idealized version of
some movie star, it is important to be
contented with what you are given,
what you start off life with. And your
body constantly changes as it
progresses through its natural,
evolutionary cycle to a better
condition to the point where you now
have the abilities to develop yourself
in happiness, being who you are. And
in doing so you achieve the harmony
around you, you become more
contactable by others, other creatures
of your planet, other spiritual
entities which brings you up higher
which in turn increases your happiness
and you feel happier, you transmit
that happiness and in turn it is
returned to you again with a higher
level of happiness. So to be unhappy
with who you are means that you have
less of that happiness and people do
not reflect it back at you which does
not increase itself so you stay at
that level where you’re neither
regressing or advancing, you stay an
unhappy individual. But, as soon as
you start to smile and are happy and
contented with who you are, that is
reflected to other people who in turn
reflect it back amplified and you in
turn feel more happiness and reflect
it out even more and so on in an
escalating pattern which continually
gets better. Of course there are
moments where you have to deal with
negative situations but if you
maintain that happy, external
experience, then you do not subtract
from it when you have to deal with
negative or depressing or harmful
situations. Okay, do we have
questions?
Russ: ten or twelve.
Omal: okay let us start off with Skip
and we will go backwards and forwards
if you have some questions that is
Skip.
Skip: well, I guess I operated my
whole life under the positive aspect
of it which made me feel more
appreciated because I respect other
people because I respect myself.
Omal: uh-huh.
Skip: and like you say, it reflects
back to you more than twofold,
whatever you give out you always get
back.
Omal: that is correct.
Skip: and I’m trying to teach my
grandson this and he’s slowly getting
the lesson........
Omal: uh-huh.
Skip: but he is a young man and he’s
growing and it just takes time.
Omal: well did you pick it up to start
off with as quickly as you do now?
Skip: no.
Omal: so you have to remember….
Skip: well, I have a little comment
that I always tell the kids, when I
was 15 my dad was the dumbest
individual I had ever met in my life
and by the time I turned 21 he was
pretty smart.
Omal: uh-huh.
Skip: in other words I was pretty
stupid, I knew everything at 15.
Omal: that is correct.
Skip: and by the time I got to 21 I
realized that hey I wasn’t that smart,
it was just my dad that was that
smart. And I try to instill this in
the young people and they’re slowly
learning, they’re slowly learning.
Omal: it is something that takes time.
Skip: yeah.
Omal: but all beings go through that
learning phase, whether it is over
many years or a few days, all beings
go through that learning experience to
accept that we do not know everything.
Skip: yeah.
Omal: I do not know everything, I am
not some super intelligent,
pan-dimensional being. I'm certainly a
pan-dimensional being but I’m not
super intelligent, not by those that
are my idols, the people that I look
up to, they are far more intelligent
than I am. It is like comparing
yourself to the feline, you are far
more intelligent than the average
feline but there again there are
people that are more intelligent than
you.
Skip: oh yeah.
Omal: to come to that balance and
accepting as Kiri puts it who you are
is very important and once you accept
that, then you can help others by
aiding them in your learning process
by saying, "this is what I’ve
learned." Dealing with the younger
people of your species, they seem to
forget that you were once their age
too.
Skip: yeah.
Omal: it may have been some time ago
but the things that they think, you
think or thought, the way that they
behave, you behaved.
Skip: uh-huh.
Omal: to quote one of your famous
earth sayings, "as I am now, so you
shall be." And that is something that
they do not understand that you were
once just as young, just as foolish,
just as smart, just as witty, just as
mischievous as they are now. Certainly
the tools around them are different
than from earlier times but the
physical experiences do not change.
Skip: they’re all the same.
Omal: uh-huh. Okay let us go to Russ’
question.
Russ: okay. I don't have all that many
I was just joking but the one thing I
do have is that when we're growing up
we have around us so many examples of
other people’s happiness and other
people’s sadness and tragedies and we
always want to emulate or reach those
persons who have the happiness and
usually try to follow their examples
that they went through in the hopes
that was the secret that led to their
happiness and maybe it will bring us
some too. So sometimes that means
getting as much money as you can or
getting the best job or the best wife
or the best car, whatever that made
those people happy is what you think
will make you happy. And then you look
at people who live in monasteries or
communes and things who have nothing
and yet they’re very happy. And it’s
like well which way do I go?
Skip: uh-huh.
Russ: do I have nothing and try to go
that way and try to live in a commune
and see if I’m happy there or do I go
become rich and see if I have all my
problems taken away because I don’t
have to worry about money anymore? And
I’m telling you it’s a lot of
conflicts I think in people as they
grow up and try to decide which way to
become happy when actually it is
really all in themselves to find that
but there’s the question, how do they
actually focus in on what will make
them happy without actually having to
go through these other experiences to
do so?
Omal: unfortunately it is trial and
error, I cannot give you a set pattern
because one size does not fit all. I
can say for me I did this, I did that,
it brought me happiness but it may not
work for either of you.
Russ: definitely won’t work for either
of us.
Skip: I done the same thing, I’ve done
the exact same thing.
Omal: you have to find what it is that
makes you happy. Is it helping people,
is it struggling, is it a combination
of the two, is it something else, is
it creating something with your hands,
is it talking, is it sitting down and
dwelling deep within, is it all of
those, is it none of those? First of
all you have to look within yourself
before you can look without and the
answers are normally very close to the
surface that you can find readily and
quickly. To understand that you have
to be self-reliant is the next step,
nobody can make you happy, you first
have to make yourself happy. As Kiri
said, first use the brain before you
learn other things, you have to think
before you do anything else. What
brings happiness, what makes you
contented? Having achieved that, then
you can go out and be a happy maker,
making other people happy so that it
reflects back on yourself and in turn
you give more so that they give more
back and so on. It is like depositing
money in a bank account, the more that
you put in, the more that you get
back. But it is not one thing, it is
many things, one size does not fit
all. Okay, next question please.
Skip: that’s sufficient for me.
Omal: okay let us deal to Mr. 11
questions left.
Russ: no I actually have a two-parter
though.
Omal: okay.
Russ: okay. When you
are......experience happiness, you
actually have to go out and you have
to experience sadness and troubles and
things that make you really depressed
in your life to really understand the
opposite of that is being happy. With
that, you have to kind of I guess come
to the realization at some point in
your life that all of that was some
kind of a lesson that helped you grow
into being happy. I myself have gone
through many experiences where I went
to the pits of despair but now I can
just look back on them as just well
that was a great lesson to go through.
But when you’re the middle of those
pits of despair, there’s nothing that
you think will ever bring you back up
again and it’s really kind of, where
do you find that single ray of hope in
that pits of despair? I mean a lot of
people find it in religion, a lot of
people find it just little things but
I know nothing is all one thing for
everyone but is there something like
an idea that could be brought out to
help in that point?
Omal: yes, one very simple one,
planning on how to get out of that
predicament. If you do this you know
that will happen so you have to plan
moment-by-moment on your improvements.
But it is a misconception that you
seem to be very well unknowing of that
you have to have the negative to
experience the positive. You do not.
If you have negative experiences it
makes the happy moments more enjoyable
but if you never have a negative
moment you're constantly happy. You
never know what it is to experience
pain, suffering or as you put it the
depths of despair, those are unknown
to you. So it is a misconception to
say that you have to have both, you do
not have to have both and the reason
is and a very simple reason is why?
You don’t need despair to appreciate
happiness, you know happiness for what
it is. It makes you feel good, it
makes you feel well but you do have to
have happiness to understand and
appreciate and find the struggle in
despair because without it you do not
know any different. If you’re
constantly in an environment where it
is despair, despair, despair,
depressed, depressed, depressed and
you have never experienced happiness
that is all you know. Happiness is
unknown to you and it’s the same with
being constantly happy, despair and
depression is an unknown to you. So to
say that you have to have one to
experience the other is wrong but it
becomes known that despair is a bad
place when you experience happiness
but if you experience just happiness,
despair is unknown to you. You
understand?
Russ: uh-huh.
Skip: uh-huh.
Omal: okay second part please.
Russ: okay, when you have this despair
or the happiness, isn’t it something
like a drug, kind of like a need to
have that happiness to be constantly
happy because happiness does make you
healthier and despair makes you
sicker?
Omal: I refer you to the answer I gave
two moments ago. You do not know
better if you have never experienced
one or the other.
Skip: well I think we all put
ourselves in a position of despair or
depression or whatever and then work
our way out of it and I really believe
that.
Omal: it is for a reason that when you
do that you do that for a reason but
if you’ve never experienced one or the
other you do not know better or you do
not know worse.
Russ: hmmm.
Omal: if despair is a constant
situation that you experience
continually, then how do you know what
happiness is?
Skip: or vice a versa.
Omal: correct.
Skip: uh-huh, but I think we do that
to ourselves, I really believe we do.
Omal: you could be right, you could be
very right. Okay next question please.
Russ: no that’s it.
Skip: that’s…..
Omal: that is it?
Skip: that's it, thank you very much.
Omal: I despair sometimes.
(we both break into laughter)
Skip: thanks Omal.
Omal: in the 3 ½ weeks that we have
had I have been studying your humor.
Russ: well you’re doing quite better.
Omal: thank you.
Russ: as opposed to those first
attempts.
Omal: I have had some dismal failures
that is so depressing but now it is
something I hope to be able to inflect
a little bit better into a more
humorous environment. I’ve always
stated using humor is a very useful
learning tool.
Russ: always.
Omal: and I will repeat my phrasing
from some time ago that you remember
the lessons more easily if they’re
humorous.
Skip: that's correct.
Russ: that was a long time ago.
Omal: long time ago?
Skip: yeah.
Russ: yeah.
Omal: maybe to you it was, to me it
was a blinking of the eye.
Skip: yeah right but you are correct.
Omal: uh-huh. Okay, as you do not have
any more questions, I will say live
long, prosper and, I’ll be back.
Skip: thanks Omal.
Russ: thanks Omal.
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