(Kiri describes how Kornas can draw genetic material from an astral body using a special needle with an electrical field. We learn the astral form holds some DNA of the physical body and their science condenses it down to extract what is needed.) 

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Russ: Kornas asked about whether he could astral travel up to get a genetic essay.

Kiri: he's always looking for fresh material.

Russ: oh no doubt.

Kiri: are you willing victim?

John: is he some kind of scientist?

Kiri: he's a geneticist

John: geneticist oh.

Kiri: uh-huh, he's liable to walk up to you with a needle about this long and say "how you doing?" as he slides it into your gut. Or walk up behind you and go "Johnny, I'd like a talk with you" and be standing right behind you and all of a sudden you feel a very stabbing pain in the butt.

Russ: yep, that's how he got me.

John: sounds interesting, pretty wild.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: yeah I went down to go visit Karra, here comes Kornas.

Kiri: walks up behind Russ and goes bop and then wanders away without saying anything.

Russ: yeah lots of laughs with Kornas there. So how's his genetic essay figure do you think?

Kiri: well we can't get Johnny up here to astral travel so we can't get it into the factor.

Russ: now we've got a, we've got some monitors on him right now.......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: none of them will do the trick huh?

Kiri: we need actual genetic material or material from the astral body.

John: okay.

Kiri: uh-huh.

John: so what you're saying is that your astral body has the same DNA as your physical body?

Kiri: has the information.

John: okay.

Kiri: uh-huh. Now by astral traveling up here, you can stay in your astral form, we can condense it and throw in molecules and stuff which will condense into the structure that would be in your physical body and then we just extract that by the same sort of method apart from you would use a larger needle with a little bit of a electrical field to keep it stable.

Russ: much larger.

John: interesting.

Kiri: I don't think a needle this long is larger or smaller than a needle this long.

Russ: I do, when you look at one, one looks to be two feet long and one looks to be one foot long.

Kiri: well?

Russ: it's a perception kind of thing, especially in your astral body which tends to magnify things.

Kiri: oh you're scared of needles.

Russ: big giant, bloody needles like that, hell yes. Terrifies the &@$#& out of me. Okay, so how do we get Johnny's DNA there.

Kiri: I wouldn't worry about it at the moment. We'll get it when the time is right.

Russ: okay.

John: I guess I'll go have to go up there.

Kiri: no, no, well take your time, you've got plenty of time.

John: yeah I'll have to go up there and visit Kornas.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well Mark's working on the astral travel stuff right now with the training program he's working on we'll put on the internet.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: why don't you just ask him to have you share with it?

Kiri: okay, I'm going to put on the next person.

Russ: okay sweetheart.

Kiri: uh-huh.