(Kiri brings up during a discussion on second engineering the communications module she wears on her wrist like everyone on the base. One of the functions is to project a hologram of the person on the other end as they view the hologram she is projecting.) 

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Kiri: now, the trick is to take that idea right? Well we've actually gone to the next stage where I was going to go, we had your initial idea which was the second engineering and we've gone to third engineering.

Skip: yeah because we discussed it between us.

Kiri: okay, now how do we go to the next logical step from there?

Skip: research what we've talked about and find out if everything that we have said is practical to a point of commercial application.

Kiri: uh-huh, yes exactly.

Skip: and then if it's all practical in commercial use or in everyday use, go ahead and patent it that way and try to put it into production. To try to put it into production is sometimes a real long and drawn out affair.

Kiri: yeah, okay, let us assume we've done that, how do we improve on the product?

Skip: oh yes definitely.

Kiri: you've got to keep improving.

Skip: that's right, you got to.

Kiri: uh-huh. Okay the next stage would be, let's make it a little bit more advanced and sophisticated. Okay, instead of having a speaker, let's say we put a little liquid crystal screen in there.

Skip: LCD?

Kiri: uh-huh. In the top you put a fiber-optic camera and a fiber-optic speaker or microphone. You mount underneath the screen, you mount a little micro-speaker.

Skip: uh-huh.

Kiri: you now have what?

Skip: TV.

Kiri: well you have......

Skip: telecommunications.

Kiri: exactly, which is what we have all over the place up here.

Skip: and you can make it this size.

Kiri: exactly, be able to look at your watch and go....

Skip: talk to the people.

Kiri: uh-huh. And using the electrical field of the body right?

Skip: it is your receiver and transmitter.

Kiri: uh-huh, as well as your power supply. So you don't need the batteries, you don't need the storage device of the power, you don't need the magnet anymore.

Skip: uh-huh.

Kiri: you now have a total, independent, biochemical, electrical system.

Skip: uh-huh around your wrist.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Skip: uh-huh.

Kiri: pretty cool device huh?

Skip: then it would go to a lapel pin.

Kiri: well actually, the way that I do it is I have a device like this, this thing here and it has a projector in it which I can project the holographic image of the person I'm talking to.

Skip: all right okay, you're going into the holographic okay.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Skip: I was going into the miniaturization.

Kiri: yeah.

Skip: of the LCD.

Kiri: yeah but I have a device that is actually a lot thinner than this one, it's probably about yea thick. And it projects the picture of the person and the sound comes from the picture. It's only a mini picture. For example, if I was talking to you and I was using my watch, I would press the answer button and it would project out and there would be a picture of you about yea tall standing on my desk talking to me and you would have the exact same picture if you had the exact setup of me talking to you. And I mean, it's easy, it's like having you actually there or the person that you're talking to.

Skip: easier to talk to, easier to talk to.

Kiri: instead of talking down to an empty.....

Skip: you have a tendency to feel like you are talking down to people.

Kiri: yeah.

Skip: over communications.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Skip: why that is, I don't know.

Kiri: yeah.

Skip: even over what we call a telephone.

Kiri: yeah.

Skip: people do talk down to you and they try to intimidate you over a phone and I won't allow it.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Skip: I won't allow it for me and I won't....I've tried to teach my offspring not to allow it to happen to them.

Kiri: yeah uh-huh.

Skip: so the button on there shuts them off.

Kiri: uh-huh, oh most certainly, most certainly.

Skip: same with two-way radios, same with television, same with any means of communication. If you are not happy with what you see or hear......

Kiri: there's the on-off switch.

Skip: turn it off.

Kiri: uh-huh. Yeah the great thing is that I can give my communicator a command, a voice command, I can say for example let's say I'm having a conversation with somebody and they are being rude to me right? I've got their holo there, I can say, "communication device, switch off". And that tells the person I'm upset right? Or I can say, "communication device", they don't hear that part, they won't see that part. And I can say, "non-vocal switch off"and it would just switch off and cut out the command. They won't see any of that. There's a whole load of root commands that you can use that override the command pattern.

Skip: uh-huh.