(Karra and I work on the concept of a center for awareness and along with that is Karra’s vision of all people, regardless of differences coming together in growth and unity. First to begin as a website and morphing into a physical center, the first half has been completed with the next phase one reality away.) 

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Karra: hello.

Russ: good evening Karra.

Karra: greetings, greetings Johnny, greetings…..

John: hi Karra, how you doing?

Karra: I’m doing fine, or at least I think I’m doing fine.

Russ: you're doing fine darling.

Karra: well as we got to yes, I’m doing fine.

Russ: I’m doing good, you’re doing good.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: mentally anyway.

Karra: yes, mentally.

Russ: all right, so anyway, got this bug in my head now we have to figure out what to do with it. Where would…..this would be something that would have to be nonprofit as we discussed.

Karra: uh-huh, yes?

Russ: and able to be encouraged and advertised on a scale that would not be expensive due to the nonprofit......

Karra: uh-huh, yes it’s something that would be useful as a trade skill.

Russ: good point.

Karra: uh-huh but yes, as a trade center, most certainly that it would be beneficial that you could use that as a tool for making contacts and getting together. Let us say you use this abode as the center, even though that you will hopefully have lots of food and say, “okay let’s get together and we'll sit down and do some experimentation and learning and teaching, bring some food with you so that we can sit down and have some nourishment whilst we’re doing this."

Russ: right, great idea. And yeah, like Omal said, getting the contacts now….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: will allow it to be expanded later on as the need arose.

Karra: correct and we will be able to tug on those strings as he put it and pull them together at the appropriate time hopefully.

Russ: right.

Karra: but….

Russ: right. You could weave in and out those folks who work and those who didn’t by that point.

Karra: hopefully yes.

Russ: and the food supply would never have to be an issue.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: just because it would be something nobody would know about.

Karra: correct.

Russ: okay, I like the idea.

Karra: uh-huh. Yes, it is something worth dwelling on.

Russ: well like I say, like I told Omal, this is why I originally came here to Tahoe.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: this was a bug in my head, that’s what brought me here.

Karra: yes.

Russ: Sedona, which has a center for awareness next to the health food store….

Karra: uh-uh.

Russ: well I’m sure they…..

Karra: I was about to say, it’s not there anymore.

Russ: oh it’s not?

John: no, no it's not in the same location.

Russ: that was a great little center though. They had something where they would have gatherings, teachings, stuff like that. It really was encouraging, a lot of good vibes coming out of there.

Karra: yes.

Russ: and I want to see something similar as we really don’t have anything to work with like that.

Karra: uh-huh. No there isn’t anything really up here but it's developing. Things are starting to happen that are making the spiritual development occur but it’s not happening in such a tight location, it’s happening in South Lake Tahoe, Myers, Carson City, Walker Indian Reservation, Pyramid Indian Reservation, Reno, Gardnerville and it is spread out over a much wider area over a much more varied terrain that is developing a spiritual awareness over a wider cross-section of people. It is no longer, I believe Tia put it the fringe element, it is now becoming pervasive throughout all levels of society.

Russ: that’s true, we’ve been here seven years, four years in this house…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and we've see the changes happening.

Karra: yes. You have gone from Bethany....

Russ: uh-huh. 

Karra: being the novice wanting to learn to Bethany the teacher.

Russ: she has a webpage, I didn’t get a chance to see it but have you seen it?

Karra: no I haven’t. Tia has, Tia is relaying the information to me.

Russ: oh okay.

Karra: and it’s a development of no longer is it the bare-footed, hippie element but it is now the suit clad, long-haired, biker, mathematician, engineer, microbiologist, astrophysicist person that has pulled everything together into a wide cross-section that can get along and learn together. You still have and as has been described, the lunatic fringe….

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: which is out there. But you have a majority that have the belief and a spiritual understanding and a love for all. And that working in a healing capacity is wonderful when you have a group of people all together. You have biker and a mathematician and a geologist and a robotisis and a microbiologist and a punk rocker all together in one room and you’re all sitting down in total agreement on the development of the mind and how it is developed. They all understand that for the astrophysicist is different from the biker. The punk rocker is different from the microbiologist. They’re all different but yet they're learning that their different points of views and their slightly different beliefs all work together to bring together to one item, the understanding and the spiritual awareness and the using their abilities to benefit the biker, the astrophysicist, the punk rocker, the microbiologist, the nurse, the doctor, the psychiatrist, the lift operator, altogether as one.

Russ: uh-huh. I just had a thought….

Karra: you sure it was your thought?

Russ: we just had a thought.

Karra: oh we now is it? I had a thought.

Russ: okay, with Sarah having their little healing center going on and their little deal, this would make a nice little addition to that.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: to where if they have the space, we could just set it up in a side corner of that.

Karra: well that is part of the framework that we were discussing, the links that will be pulled together at the appropriate time.

Russ: right. They would see the benefit….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: from attracting of a more larger gathering for them to work with and use their services.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: we’d see the benefit from having a naturally center for higher learning already available.

Karra: uh-huh. Can you check to see how much tape we have dear?

Russ: sure love, half a tape.

John: now am I correct that you two could communicate this whole conversation without verbalizing it?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: we do communicate this whole conversation.

Karra: this is only a little bit of the conversation.

Russ: this is just going on all the time…..we just have to put it on tape so I can put it back on the web.

Karra: uh-huh.

John: right.

Russ: yeah we got half a tape.

Karra: okay yeah, there’s a lot of back play that goes on that spills out into vocalization.