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(Kiri concedes that sometimes a white lie is needed in a relationship to avoid causing pain or embarrassment to the other person. She also talks about love between twin, triple and quadruple souls and how sometimes love isn’t a part of it.) 

Skip: ........be nice.

Kiri: honesty is very, very important, very important but there again by being too honest and truthful you can also cause harm. If you never told a lie even a white lie and always told the truth, for example let’s say I wake up in the morning and I look like death warmed over and I’m wearing something that is a little…..makes me look very silly and Mark says to me, “oh that looks very nice hon.” not to hurt my feelings.

Russ: right.

Kiri: and I go out and everybody’s laughing and snickering at me not they would because I don’t really care but then I would get upset because I’d be made a fool of.

Russ: right.

Kiri: so sometimes telling white lies is acceptable to protect.

Skip: well hon, that’s being considerate.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Skip: what I was discussing was a person’s feelings changing towards another person.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Skip: let them know, don’t lie to them.

Kiri: yes true, that is admirable but also people’s feelings change constantly. One moment you can absolutely detest somebody and the next moment you can absolutely adore somebody or a week later you adore somebody. It’s something that is at the moment.

Russ: that’s a good point Kiri, I hadn’t thought of that but you’re quite correct…..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I found that to be actually true in many of my relationships where they do something, hey give it a couple days and it's like right back on square one again.

Skip: uh-huh.

Kiri: yeah but one of the most common things that I’ve noticed talking to quite a number of people that have been here about relationships is that a lot of people mistake lust for love, a lot of people and that in itself is a problem. Something that needs to be realized that love isn’t something that happens…..(claps her hands).....like that even with twin souls or triple souls. I had very little feelings towards Mark or Tia, I felt complete and I knew that they were triple souls but it wasn’t something that was sort of like Bam, this big revelation. Sort of like, “okay they’re my triple souls, big deal.”

Russ: is that because you guys deal with that situation a lot?

Kiri: uh-huh. But it is something that is a common misconception especially on the third dimension that it’s this big, big revelation. It’s not, it really isn’t, it’s not a big deal at all. Being complete and whole is wonderful, it’s a great feeling but there isn’t always love between twin souls or triple souls or even quadruple souls, it’s something that takes time and in taking time it’s something that you have to learn to accept. A lot of people, again especially on the third dimension, act on their bodily instincts which can frequently be wrong. The act of following your instinct and following your heart that’s acting at the moment......it's like my grandmother said that having love for everything is great but using the mind to realize what is right, sometimes love can be very misleading and very dangerous, it can lead to destruction but by using your mind and analyzing a situation and realizing what is right and what is wrong and what should or should not be done and combining that with the feeling of love if everything works out how you want it to work. For example let’s say looking for the perfect guy. I want blonde hair, blue eyes, six foot tall, muscular build, highly intelligent, psychically active in all five abilities, that’s saying what I want. And if I’m not prepared to lower my standards and I wait and look and search for that person and I find them finally, then I’m going to do my best to make sure it works because they meet all my criteria, I haven’t lowered my standards so therefore I've decided what I want and there’s no point in lowering one’s standards. To lower one’s standards is accepting second, third, fourth or even fifth best. Who wants to accept third or fourth or fifth or second best, anybody?

Russ: uh-uh.