(Omal and myself delve into the UFO conspiracies the secret government is rumored to be a part of. We don't get anything in the way of confirmation from Omal though what we do go over is based on the some of the activities reported to be part of the secret government back in the nineties we had read on the web.) 

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Russ: now then, one of the things about the secret government that I'm working on right now is just getting a little bit more information. Sort of like, know your enemy kind of thing. So I'm wondering about.....it seems as though I'm reading now that members have been breaking away from them. For example Laszlo (Bob Lazar) from the Area 51 group who's been passing information on about that and I'm wondering are they like having problems then from an internal source?

Omal: it is more of getting rid of those that are not desirable.

Russ: okay I see.

Omal: there are several different ways of getting rid of them. Some are having the possibility of planting them in society to act as disinformation, others to give information which can be refuted and serve a purpose that these people are looked at as the lunatic fringe.

Russ: hmm, so give the truth but give it in such a way nobody believes it.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I see. Okay now some of the stuff that's in the Sedona Journal (of Emergence) I'm reading about is that there are large-scale detention centers like at the Sedona Airport being built up with chain link and barbed wire. Now theoretically then the secret government is pushing for racial bias to keep people separate, colors against each other and those that favor segregation and those who don't to split up the government and people.

Omal: that would serve a function for them yes.

Russ: that would be for their purpose then?

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay. Now I was also reading how in a certain incident, they used a weapon of a large coil directed behind a black crystal or a large coil with a black crystal behind it to resonate some negative vibrations in Sedona, does that sound about right?

Omal: that sounds as it is feasible.

John: can I please interject real briefly here? Is this technique referred to as radiometry or something similar to that? I'm not sure if I'm saying it correctly.

Omal: I'm not quite sure what terms you would use on your planet.

John: okay because I have heard of a similar technique and Russ and I have not discussed it and I learned about it just before I left Sedona and I am very curious about this and about the negative aspects of them using a dark crystal against the people.

Omal: you have to remember that there are certain areas within Sedona that has certain vibrational properties which could be used to amplify negative waves generated by whatever method necessary.

John: would this be the opposite or the more correctly, the counterpoint of positive vortices or vortex?

Omal: yes.

John: is either term acceptable by you?

Omal: vortex or vortices is certainly acceptable.

John: okay, I'm sorry Russ, I didn't mean to interrupt.

Russ: no, no, no, any information is relevant at this point.

John: yeah okay. I'll turn you back over to Russ, it was just something that hit me hard, I had to clarify, thank you.

Omal: you're welcome.

Russ: okay one thing I know you can't confirm but I would like to...if you have any more information possibly get it, and that also in this same magazine it says that how in the '40s, a ship from Andromeda landed with.......well it said Zeta people, I assume Zeta Reticli, it wasn't explained........invited the government of the United States to join the planetary government at a certain point in time. And at that demonstration they demonstrated an ability to stop all manner of weapons from firing. For example, I think they just anything they wanted to use they just were able to stop it from actually going off, the chemical explosions.

Omal: this is quite possible that there are ways and means of disabling chemical weapons. Whether or not this occurred I do not know at this time.

Russ: okay, apparently they said they'd be coming back in 1985 and in 1985 there was numerous nuclear and plasma devices ready and instead of allowing earth to be destroyed or parts to be destroyed, they basically said they would come back at another time around this time in history and right now apparently they are holding back according to this and helping spiritually at weak defensive points the government's not looking at. How is that related to us and as an example please?

Omal: this sounds like something that your entertainment establishment would possibly dream up. There is certainly the possibility of interference from outside forces but whether or not they would select a particular time and watch and wait and see what happens is hard to say at this time.

Russ: hmm...okay.